2016 NFL Season

[FlameFan21]

Off the iron and in.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

punting is not weak.. guarantees a tie, maybe even force a turnover as KC presses.

Ties are weak. KC would try a few draw plays and take the tie. Best play to get a mistake is to give it to them in a good spot. Should have tried a jump ball down the field, either picked or maybe you get a penalty.

[GirlySports]

ties are not weak

[GirlySports]

in addition that could be a fatal decision because now KC is up a game on Broncos plus a division record of 3-0 compared to Denver's 1-3.

if this had been a tie, Denver just has to beat KC on Christmas Day to overtake them AND have the head to head tiebreaker. Now a win on Christmas Day might not be enough.

[Sylvanfan]

Well Denver pretty much can't win the Division anymore.

Huge win for my Chiefs. Broncos coming off a bye and the Chiefs are really beat up right now. I remember a lot of fans were outraged when they drafted Tyreek Hill because he has an awful record off the field. But he saved their bacon tonight.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Denver would be two games back of Oakland if they tied (Oakland has the head to head tie breaker too), so winning the division was going to be hard anyway with a tie. Not much difference between wildcard 1 and 2, gotta beat New England at some point anyway. It was a risky call but it was playing to win and his defense is still very good and it's Alex Smith. Worth rolling the dice to me.

[GirlySports]

Not just wildcard 1 and 2. Miami is 7-4

[bubbsy]

woot woot, dolphins coming off a great November!
they are 7-4, in the 2nd WC spot. Remaining games are @ravens, cardinals, @jets, @bills, patriots.

Think they'll need to get 3 more wins to be left standing when it's all said and done. Could get very interesting. Just happy that i get to watch meaningful dolphin football in Dec!

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Not just wildcard 1 and 2. Miami is 7-4

If you wanna second guess anything, second guess Benny Fowler not going down and scoring the 76 yard TD instead. Chiefs were out of timeouts, so even if Fowler goes down at the 15 yard line, they likely run three plays, kick the FG and you are up 4 with 40 or so seconds left and the Chiefs have to go 75 yards with no timeouts. Punting in that situation just sends the worst message to your team. Kicking was the mistake because it gave another 8 yards of field position. They should have gone for it. You'd take Denver's defense 99 times out of 100 to stop Alex Smith from getting 30 yards to get into range.

[GirlySports]

you're stuck on the notion that ties are for sissies. A tie is a result. One that is better than losing. Punting does not send the wrong message. I don't mind going for it either but punting is the better percentage play. KC probably kneels down for the tie.

99 out of 100? Alex Smith carved them up on 3 consecutive drives.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

OBrien is a terrible coach.

I wouldn't say he's a terrible coach. His supposed ability of coaching up quarterbacks is supremely overrated that's for sure. It's like he feels he can pick up any QB off the scrap heap and make him elite. Who are they going to reclaim from the garbage bin this offseason that Bill can coach up to "he is what we thought he was" level?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

you're stuck on the notion that ties are for sissies. A tie is a result. One that is better than losing. Punting does not send the wrong message. I don't mind going for it either but punting is the better percentage play. KC probably kneels down for the tie.

99 out of 100? Alex Smith carved them up on 3 consecutive drives.

Siemian had more yards in 3 passes than Alex Smith had all night prior to OT. So yeah, 99 out of 100. You're struck on the belief this dooms their season, when in reality they'll still make the playoffs. They tried to win the division, can't blame them for that. No one behind them is a real threat, and the Dolphins schedule is brutal coming in and they could go 0-5, allowing the Broncos to coast in. Broncos are fine.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I wouldn't say he's a terrible coach. His supposed ability of coaching up quarterbacks is supremely overrated that's for sure. It's like he feels he can pick up any QB off the scrap heap and make him elite. Who are they going to reclaim from the garbage bin this offseason that Bill can coach up to "he is what we thought he was" level?

I just find he makes bad decisions. 20-20 against the Raiders late in the 4th, doesn't kick the FG to take the lead, turns the ball over on downs. Then punting the ball at midfield back to the Raiders down 7 with 1 timeout left (never got it back) Then yesterday down 14-7 4th and goal at the 2 with 12 minutes left, kicks the FG. So many run plays yesterday were stuffed. 2nd and 4 turns into 3rd and 7 too often. Perhaps he's handcuffed by his bad QB but he just seems all over the place.

[Weitz]

I am actually very happy the Refs stopped to look at the catch for the TD there with 1 second left. I am not sure of the rules if they could look at it after time is done or not.

But it was clearly a touchdown so I am glad they got it right and KC had a chance to tie the game.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Siemian had more yards in 3 passes than Alex Smith had all night prior to OT. So yeah, 99 out of 100. You're struck on the belief this dooms their season, when in reality they'll still make the playoffs. They tried to win the division, can't blame them for that. No one behind them is a real threat, and the Dolphins schedule is brutal coming in and they could go 0-5, allowing the Broncos to coast in. Broncos are fine.

You are forecasting too far in the future and assuming alot.
Today:
If Denver got a tie, they would be 1.5 games behind the Raiders, tied with the Chiefs (with Christmas night coming up) and 0.5 games ahead of the Dolphins.

Instead now the Broncos are pretty much 1.5 games behind KC (cant win tiebreaker) and behind the Dolphins. Dolphins can now equal Broncos record the last 5 games and they're in.

It doesn't doom their season but today right now, they on the outside looking in.

It would have been ok going for it but I still would have punted. FG was the worst option.

[PostandIn]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

You are forecasting too far in the future and assuming alot.
Today:
If Denver got a tie, they would be 1.5 games behind the Raiders, tied with the Chiefs (with Christmas night coming up) and 0.5 games ahead of the Dolphins.

Instead now the Broncos are pretty much 1.5 games behind KC (cant win tiebreaker) and behind the Dolphins. Dolphins can now equal Broncos record the last 5 games and they're in.

It doesn't doom their season but today right now, they on the outside looking in.

It would have been ok going for it but I still would have punted. FG was the worst option.

C'mon, really? The AFC race was finished after week 3, don't you know?

[Erick Estrada]

I feel a head coach has a responsibility to the team to make the call that will result in the best opportunity to make the playoffs and forgoing an almost guaranteed tie for a 62 yard FG is pretty stupid regardless of your personal opinion of ties. Now the Broncos are in a bit of a pickle as they have only one easy looking game on their schedule left and three difficult ones looming against the Pats, Chiefs, and Raiders. I love that the Raiders have the opportunity to put the nail in their coffin on week 17.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by PostandIn

C'mon, really? The AFC race was finished after week 3, don't you know?

New England is going to win the AFC, so yeah not much has changed. Denver is a disappointment mostly, but New England is in 3rd gear and is cruising. What we really know after yesterday is Seattle is a non-factor after being humiliated by a pretty average at best Tampa team. Derek Carr threw for over 500 yards against the Bucs. Russell Wilson had about 80 until the middle of the 4th quarter. Seattle has all the makings of a one and done team.

[Displaced Flames fan]

That was a great game to watch. Plenty of excitement. Still trying to figure out how Denver lost. The 2-PT conversion play is really sticking in my craw.

I actually was in favor of the field goal attempt at the time, but I think I forgot Matt Prater isn't the kicker anymore. While McManus has been good and good from long distance, he hasn't had the number of long kicks Prater had while in Denver.

Houston and Miller with legendary performances...and Ty Sambrailo with a legendary exposure. I am sure Elway will be addressing that position in the offseason.

I think Denver will get a wildcard, but they will be hard pressed to win anywhere on the road in January because the offense just isn't good enough.

[Sylvanfan]

Denver and KC both have the same opponents winning percentage left in their remaining games. Denver has one easy game left at Jacksonville, but the other 4 are all pretty tough. KC has a schedule full of pretty good opponents as San Diego is the only sub 500 team they still play. Even Oakland who have the easier schedule don't have any what I'd call easy games left.

I think it's a race to 11. If you win 11 games you make the playoffs. If you finish at 10, than you allow tie breakers to work their way into the mix.

The NFC would seem like there's still a bit of a race in the North and South and one open Wild Card spot. Oddly enough the Giants had a good November...maybe that means December slump?