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Old 07-13-2022, 07:44 AM   #1581
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Being in Toronto, and the leafs still needing a 1b goalie, at minimal cap cost....

How would flames fan offering vladar to the leafs? I'm sure the flames can find a avg backup on the market given that markstrom plays 60+ games?
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:45 AM   #1582
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Stl would have the interest no doubt.
But do they have the desire to part with the assets the Flames would need to make it happen.

Surely 1 of Thomas (unlikely with the recent signing) or Kyrou is the starting ask.
Likely a 1st round pick.
Thomas would have more trade value than Tkachuk these days. He's going no where, and never was. His years of control would have made a difference, than a player going to UFA in a year.

Kyrou should be available.
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:53 AM   #1583
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Being in Toronto, and the leafs still needing a 1b goalie, at minimal cap cost....

How would flames fan offering vladar to the leafs? I'm sure the flames can find a avg backup on the market given that markstrom plays 60+ games?
I'm also a Leafs fan (sorry I live in Toronto), so I'd love this kind of deal for the Leafs, but if I'm the Flames I don't do it without an overpayment.

Wolf is potentially the Flames future in goal but he needs playing time which means another season in the AHL. And the Flames aren't going to get a better backup than Vladar. Unless the Flames are going full tank mode (which I highly doubt), dealing Vladar now doesn't make sense.
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:54 AM   #1584
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Being in Toronto, and the leafs still needing a 1b goalie, at minimal cap cost....

How would flames fan offering vladar to the leafs? I'm sure the flames can find a avg backup on the market given that markstrom plays 60+ games?
I doubt that the Flames have any intention of trading Vladar, absent a huge overpay.
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:55 AM   #1585
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He has scored at a 60+ point pace for the last 3 seasons. You may be remembering 23 year old Burokovsky
I think the inconsistency was last year. He was fine off the hop, but petered out and eventually got replaced by Nichushkin.
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:59 AM   #1586
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So the Senators add Talbot, Giroux and Debrincat to an already pretty good looking young forward core? Wow… dynamite off-season if they land Giroux. May wanna look at D though.
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:03 AM   #1587
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If the Sens are looking to shed some cap, and Connor Brown is available at the right price go get him.

Don't overpay for Ben Chiarot today. Tre's long memory could be a blessing and a curse with this money.
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:03 AM   #1588
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Does anyone have other examples of a pro sports owner dying and his role going to a couple young kids? The ownership group of the Senators is now two children. Must be weird to have your boss be teenage girls
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:07 AM   #1589
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So, when do we figure we find out the direction the Flames are going?

1. Staying silent in FA? Or signing players?
2. Tkachuk being traded?
3. Taking on bad contracts?

I just hope the Flames are honest with the fans on what they are looking to do.
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:08 AM   #1590
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I mean, the biggest UFA's will get done today most likely.
Unfortunately most of the UFA's already know where they are going before it opens, so the Flames were behind the 8 ball as of last night.

With that said, I hope they stay quiet which would signify a proper strategy.
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:09 AM   #1591
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:09 AM   #1592
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So, when do we figure we find out the direction the Flames are going?

1. Staying silent in FA? Or signing players?
2. Tkachuk being traded?
3. Taking on bad contracts?

I just hope the Flames are honest with the fans on what they are looking to do.
My guess they will sign a couple UFAs, more minor type of stuff

Tkachuk contract is likely going to take all summer to figure out

Flames addressing the loss of Gaudreau, I still think will be done via trade and it could take a while.
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:10 AM   #1593
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Being in Toronto, and the leafs still needing a 1b goalie, at minimal cap cost....

How would flames fan offering vladar to the leafs? I'm sure the flames can find a avg backup on the market given that markstrom plays 60+ games?
Personally, I don't like it. Vladar has shown flashes of impressive play and I would rather keep him
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:11 AM   #1594
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Flames somehow ended up with two of those contracts.
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:11 AM   #1595
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Need to keep Vladar so he can play the Oilers.
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:16 AM   #1596
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I'm more in favor of trading markstrom and running a wolf/vladdy combo. Markstrom could probably garner a significant return still.
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:19 AM   #1597
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So, when do we figure we find out the direction the Flames are going?

1. Staying silent in FA? Or signing players?
2. Tkachuk being traded?
3. Taking on bad contracts?

I just hope the Flames are honest with the fans on what they are looking to do.
I'd be ok with a mid-tier FA move, but their priority should be getting Tkachuk and Mangiapane inked to long-term deals. They can bump Bread up to the top line, then stick Toffoli or Pelletier on the 2nd line with Backlund and Coleman.

It's definitely a big step back, but there's not much they can do about it now.
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:20 AM   #1598
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best chance for the Flames to deal Tkachuk to the Blues would be a 1st, Neighbors, Tarasenko.

Moving out the Tarasenko contract for them would be big.
A Kyrou deal is something they would look at in the future if they cant afford him.
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:20 AM   #1599
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I'd be ok with a mid-tier FA move, but their priority should be getting Tkachuk and Mangiapane inked to long-term deals. They can bump Bread up to the top line, then stick Toffoli or Pelletier on the 2nd line with Backlund and Coleman.

It's definitely a big step back, but there's not much they can do about it now.
Oof that’s a huge step back. Backlund and Coleman with anyone is a decent 3rd line but painful 2nd
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Old 07-13-2022, 08:21 AM   #1600
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The Flames cannot trade their first this year.
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