2017 NFL season thread

[transplant99]

“They’ve lost their collective minds,” Carr wrote on Twitter in reaction to the news that Manning will not start against Carr’s younger brother, Derek, this weekend.

Carr was among the loudest. Also weighing in were:


Kurt Warner, who was replaced by Manning in 2004: “He’s never done anything but show character and do the right thing. … Shame on the Giants.”


Former Giants lineman David Diehl: “I’m absolutely speechless. I’ve watched every game & have sat through this rough @Giants season & this what you do to a man who has lead this team for 210 straight games.”

Former Giants defensive lineman Osi Umenyiora: “Eli deserves much better than that. Much better. Class person, class player. That’s absurd.”

[puffnstuff]

So take the Raiders defence in fantasy league this week? Mcadoo probably will.

He should have been fired more than a month ago.

[devo22]

suggesting to Eli that he can start for the sake of the streak but would get pulled during the game is about as disrespectful as it gets. How is a clown like McAdoo able to do that to a two time Super Bowl MVP and the face of the franchise? And not for a talented young QB, but for Geno fricking Smith. What the ####? Why would the Giants even allow that crap? McAdoo should have been fired a long time ago. He certainly shouldn't be allowed to embarrass a potential future HOFer like that.

[Jason14h]

I don’t think it’s even embarrassing to Eli. Mcafool has done nothing but embarasss himself this year and this should ensure he is never a head coach again !

[CedarMeter]

Originally Posted by transplant99

“They’ve lost their collective minds,” Carr wrote on Twitter in reaction to the news that Manning will not start against Carr’s younger brother, Derek, this weekend.

Carr was among the loudest. Also weighing in were:


Kurt Warner, who was replaced by Manning in 2004: “He’s never done anything but show character and do the right thing. … Shame on the Giants.”


Former Giants lineman David Diehl: “I’m absolutely speechless. I’ve watched every game & have sat through this rough @Giants season & this what you do to a man who has lead this team for 210 straight games.”

Former Giants defensive lineman Osi Umenyiora: “Eli deserves much better than that. Much better. Class person, class player. That’s absurd.”

Rapaport didn't like the move. https://www.instagram.com/p/BcDrwefB...ichaelrapaport

[Johnny Makarov]

Wow so much respect for Eli on here. Have never liked the doofus from day 1 after pulling an Eric Lindros on the Chargers. The only injustice is that he fluked the crap out and won 2 superbowls.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Wow so much respect for Eli on here. Have never liked the doofus from day 1 after pulling an Eric Lindros on the Chargers. The only injustice is that he fluked the crap out and won 2 superbowls.

I've never liked Eli but this is still a garbage move.

[d_phaneuf]

Complete garbage move for a guy who is going to be one of the 5 best players in franchise history

Offering to let him keep his steak too is just pathetic by McAdoo who should be fired right away

I don't think Eli is done either, jags were mentioned above, I can definitely see him landing there or maybe Denver next year? Some team with an elite d that needs a vet qb

[Senator Clay Davis]

There would be nothing wrong here if they had a rookie or unproven QB who they wanted to see in the last five games of the season so they could start planning for the future. Even before this move it was highly likely Eli was going to be released this offseason. But Geno Smith? The guy who lost his job to Fitzmagic? The same Fitz who lost his job to Josh McCown? And it's not like McAdoo needs to find out what he has for next year, surely he knows he's not coming back next year. Just shows he's in way over his head here.

[Cortez]

I would think a decision like this came from way over McAdoo’s head. As much as I think the guy is a goober, I just can’t see him making this decision when he’s on thin ice already

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Cortez

I would think a decision like this came from way over McAdoo’s head. As much as I think the guy is a goober, I just can’t see him making this decision when he’s on thin ice already

No chance. This isn't the Jets we're talking about here. The Giants have one of the family of owners in the league. And even though Jerry Reese is a terrible GM, there's no way he'd pull this. This is all McAdoo.

[Erick Estrada]

I've always though Eli was overrated and if he makes the HOF will be amongst the worst players to get in but he's always been a class act and considering the dumpster fire the team was he never complained or made any public comments about the direction of the team. Went out and competed hard week in and week out with all his starting receivers out for the season. I could see if they had a highly touted young QB in the wings but they are benching him for Gino Smith for crying out loud. That's the biggest slap in the face.

[Joborule]

This is the ultimate troll job by McAdoo. That's some Madden #### there.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I think it happened a few years ago in one of the conferences. I know the Eagles missed the playoffs as a 10-6 team in 2014 I believe. Mind you that was also the year a 7-8-1 Panthers team got in for winning an atrocious NFC South.

In 2008 the Patriots missed the playoffs with an 11-5 record. That's the only time in the current system that I can remember recall an 11 win team missing. In 1991 the NFC had a glut of 10-6 teams which resulted in Phillips and San Francisco missing with 10 wins. Back in those days there were 3 Divisions and 3 Wild Card teams. In the AFC the 8-8 Jets were a Wild Card team in 91. Over the years there's probably 15to 20 or so teams since 1990 that missed the playoffs with 10 wins. Likely more so since the 4 Division format came into play.

*edit only 9 times since 1990 that I could count. Most of those since the 2002 re-alignment. 91 was the only year before that where 10 win teams missed out

[Cortez]

Originally Posted by rubecube

No chance. This isn't the Jets we're talking about here. The Giants have one of the family of owners in the league. And even though Jerry Reese is a terrible GM, there's no way he'd pull this. This is all McAdoo.

I disagree. But even if this was McAdoo’s decision, wouldn’t it be something that he gets approval of first? There’s no way he does this without talking to ownership and Reese about it. Someone above him signed off on it

[Erick Estrada]

Michael Rapaport not a fan of this the Eli benching;

https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/s...237697/video/1

He even puts a Saskatchewan mention in for good measure lol.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Cortez

I disagree. But even if this was McAdoo’s decision, wouldn’t it be something that he gets approval of first? There’s no way he does this without talking to ownership and Reese about it. Someone above him signed off on it

most NFL head coaches have autonomy on starters and like rube mentioned the Mara's are a well respected family, they aren't meddlers

But to me the bigger issue is him offering to let Eli start to just keep his streak, and like said above by SenatorClay, it's Geno Smith not some legit option going forward

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

In 2008 the Patriots missed the playoffs with an 11-5 record. That's the only time in the current system that I can remember recall an 11 win team missing. In 1991 the NFC had a glut of 10-6 teams which resulted in Phillips and San Francisco missing with 10 wins. Back in those days there were 3 Divisions and 3 Wild Card teams. In the AFC the 8-8 Jets were a Wild Card team in 91. Over the years there's probably 15to 20 or so teams since 1990 that missed the playoffs with 10 wins.

But that's not the question; it's easy to see that happening when one division in the conference is loaded and the other isn't. Then you get 10 win teams missing while 8 win teams get in. What I'm asking is whether there's ever been a conference so stacked with good teams in this format that literally all of the playoff teams that made it were 11 wins or better?

It just doesn't seem realistic... I'm prepared to stand corrected, though.

[transplant99]

i was wondering where the Mara's were in all this nonsense. By all accounts they are really really good people/owners, so this whole thing seemed odd.

"Maybe the timing of it could have been a little different. I wish I could've been here when that was all going down," said co-owner John Mara, who was attending owners' meetings in New York when the decision was made on Tuesday. "What I did not expect -- and this was my fault; maybe I was naïve. I did not expect Eli to react by saying to go ahead and start the other guys.

"I understand, especially after speaking with him [Wednesday]. I completely understand, but that took me by surprise a bit and maybe I would've handled that a little differently."

"I was hoping it would turn out differently and he would continue to play some portion of the games, but at some point we'd work in the other quarterbacks," Mara said. "But he didn't want to do it that way, and I understand that. I respect him so much, and I'm not going to argue with him.

He later added: "After talking to him [Wednesday], I understand why it wasn't [a good plan]. He's a competitor, and he wants to be out there playing."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...nning-benching

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

But that's not the question; it's easy to see that happening when one division in the conference is loaded and the other isn't. Then you get 10 win teams missing while 8 win teams get in. What I'm asking is whether there's ever been a conference so stacked with good teams in this format that literally all of the playoff teams that made it were 11 wins or better?

It just doesn't seem realistic... I'm prepared to stand corrected, though.

1980 AFC is the first one I see. Buffalo, Cleveland, Houston, San Diego and Oakland all had 11 wins. But that's a 5 team playoff not 6. Hasn't happened since the playoffs were expanded in 1990. In 1977 and earlier they only played 14 games.