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04-08-2017, 08:41 PM
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#1581
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SIAP...sorry to bump this, but thought this was a good graphic showing different construction costs...
article is from 2013, so adjust for inflation, but its an interesting comparison...
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04-08-2017, 10:19 PM
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#1583
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i'm sure it is... but its also in NYC, so construction costs are probably more just for that, and MSG houses a ton of stuff, not just hockey... so that budget was most likely for the entire facility, which is substantial...
it also sits above a subway station, which undoubtedly complicates things...
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04-08-2017, 10:26 PM
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#1584
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Lifetime Suspension
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Thanked for that image alone.
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04-08-2017, 10:37 PM
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#1585
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I hope they kept the bowling alleys in the renos.
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04-08-2017, 10:48 PM
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#1586
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bowling alleys closed in 1988.
Yes I was curious enough to look that up.
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04-09-2017, 08:15 AM
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#1587
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Yeah and considering that doing a reno is always going to be more expensive than a brand new build, and that its in the middle of New York there was always going to have to be a premium paid.
But it is super cool.
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04-09-2017, 09:41 AM
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#1588
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Could not find a newer section drawing, but it's definitely a building only possibly in cities as dense as NYC...
The old school axo evokes a Fountainhead kind of utopia though
Haven't gone myself, so I would be interested in hearing from people who have
Last edited by oldschoolcalgary; 04-09-2017 at 09:45 AM.
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04-09-2017, 09:59 AM
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#1589
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Yeah and considering that doing a reno is always going to be more expensive than a brand new build, and that its in the middle of New York there was always going to have to be a premium paid.
But it is super cool.
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IIRc the reno had to be done a certain way as well because the city has wanted to 'take back' MSG and the permitting process was very difficult, which drove up construction costs even more.
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04-09-2017, 10:02 AM
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#1590
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Originally Posted by Roughneck
IIRc the reno had to be done a certain way as well because the city has wanted to 'take back' MSG and the permitting process was very difficult, which drove up construction costs even more.
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Its also in the middle of New York, probably one of the top 3 most densely populated urban areas in the world. It wasnt going to be easy and certainly not cheap.
I am somewhat disappointed that they got rid of the bowling alleys though.
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04-09-2017, 10:18 AM
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#1591
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New York, probably one of the top 3 most densely populated urban areas in the world.
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Pretty sure it's not even close to top 3. But most definitely not a boonie village either.
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04-09-2017, 10:21 AM
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Pretty sure it's not even close to top 3. But most definitely not a boonie village either.
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I dont recognize....Asia.
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04-09-2017, 02:30 PM
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it also sits above a subway station, which undoubtedly complicates things...
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That's sort of understating it.
Amazing picture by the way.
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04-10-2017, 09:11 AM
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Jonah Keri podcast: interview with Utah Jazz owner Gail Miller
http://nerdist.com/the-jonah-keri-po...3-gail-miller/
The ownership of the Utah Jazz is in a legacy trust which means the family will never profit from it and it'll never leave the city.
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/01/2...y-miller-group
Great interview. No public funding and no threats to leave. Flames and the city could learn something.
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04-10-2017, 10:01 AM
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That's an expensive arena when you consider Rogers Place was $600 million CDN.
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04-10-2017, 11:16 AM
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Quote:
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i'm sure it is... but its also in NYC, so construction costs are probably more just for that, and MSG houses a ton of stuff, not just hockey... so that budget was most likely for the entire facility, which is substantial...
it also sits above a subway station, which undoubtedly complicates things... |
Lame!!! Not a single Garth Brooks show this year.
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04-10-2017, 12:17 PM
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So, just on concerts, Ed Sheeran, who has to be the biggest act this year, is skipping Calgary. I do know people from out of town who are going to go to Edmonton - they would have rather gone to Calgary, but nope.
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04-10-2017, 05:25 PM
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So, just on concerts, Ed Sheeran, who has to be the biggest act this year, is skipping Calgary. I do know people from out of town who are going to go to Edmonton - they would have rather gone to Calgary, but nope.
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