2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors v2

[keratosis]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Well the server is going down tonight and might not be back up until tomorrow morning.

All the trades will happen tonight.

Quiet you!

[Flash Walken]

Maybe Vancouver takes on Bickell

[SuperMatt18]

I still don't see how Hudler wouldn't be traded already if it was just a 2nd. Last year was a better draft and worse players got more then a 2nd.

Last Year:
Perron: 1st
Winnik: 2nd & 4th
Jagr: 2nd & 3rd
Vermette: 1st + Dahlbeck
Cole: 2nd + Janmark +Backman
Glencross: 2nd + 3rd
Connolly: 2 2nds
Stewart : 2nd round pick

Hudler is a better player that most on those list, and at least equal to them. Asking for only a 2nd seems ridiculous. Would also argue he had a much better playoff history then Ladd if you pull that into the equation.

[MikeMc]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

^ I think they have 1.6 mil left

Ya I think you're right. Well poop.

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[Super-Rye]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Well the server is going down tonight and might not be back up until tomorrow morning.

All the trades will happen tonight.

Well if that happens I guess I'll see you all in r/hockey.

[Imported_Aussie]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Maybe Vancouver takes on Bickell

That's the only way I see it happening, which means they would need a good incentive to do so, since that contract continues next season

[Weitz]

Purcell scratched again tonight. Trade Imminent according to twitter.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Really similar situation as Cammalleri.

Hudler has been hot garbage for 35 games or so, is small and didn't perform well in the playoffs last year.

But he has 10 points in his last 11 games, and did play well in the playoffs last year.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Purcell scratched again tonight. Tank Imminent according to twitter.

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[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Maybe Vancouver takes on Bickell

even with retaining half salary on both it would be the only way for Chicago to get both Vrbata and Hamhuis (if they still have interest in Vrbata after getting Ladd)

Canucks do have the cap room for it next year, they are going to have at least 6 players on ELCs so plenty of space, if the Hawks throw in enough of a sweetener to make it worth it

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

A 2nd seems about Hudler's value given he played like crap for the first half the year. He's small, not speedy, but very skilled. Has tremendous chemistry with the very skilled Johnny and Monny but I really question how well he'll fit in on another team if they don't have similarly skilled players who can do nice touch passes, give and gos, with Hudler. Hudler hasn't looked good this year when not with Johnny and Monny and hasn't shown he can carry a line or drive play strictly by himself.

DET should really pick him up again, he needs to play with a Datsyuk/Zetterberg type. Hudler's game is better when playing with really smart, really skilled players.

That's pretty much irrelevant IMO.

Hudler led the league in 5 on 5 points last year, and finished with 76 points.

Yes, he struggled the first half of this year, but has recovered in the last month to the level of last year.

Whether the first half was injury or whatever, the fact is that, since returning from injury, he has 5G, 10A, 15P in 18 games (a 68P pace).

He put up first line points last year, and is putting up first line points right now. So for me, that means the weak first half was an aberration.

He is easily the most productive player available. Suggesting he's worth a 3rd or a 2nd is hard to justify IMO.

[Demetric]

Thoughts on Tanner Pearson out of LA?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

That's pretty much irrelevant IMO.

Hudler led the league in 5 on 5 points last year, and finished with 76 points.

Yes, he struggled the first half of this year, but has recovered in the last month to the level of last year.

Whether the first half was injury or whatever, the fact is that, since returning from injury, he has 5G, 10A, 15P in 18 games (a 68P pace).

He put up first line points last year, and is putting up first line points right now. So for me, that means the weak first half was an aberration.

He is easily the most productive player available. Suggesting he's worth a 3rd or a 2nd is hard to justify IMO.

I'm a bit confused on the second as well, but that's literally what Treliving is asking for

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I'm a bit confused on the second as well, but that's literally what Treliving is asking for

That is only true if Mirtle is indeed correct.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I'm a bit confused on the second as well, but that's Allegedly what Treliving is asking for

fyp

[Robbob]

They could be asking for that pick but also a player/prospect.

[Street Pharmacist]

Mirtle is about as straight laced as they come. Am I to believe he's either making it up or being played? Why would he do that considering he has literally zero history of doing that?

I know people here want more, but a second is likely what they get at this point

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Mirtle is about as straight laced as they come. Am I to believe he's either making it up or being played? Why would he do that considering he has literally zero history of doing that?

I know people here want more, but a second is likely what they get at this point

I agree. its still allegedly unless BT quotes this himself.

[ClubFlames]

I'll even take Stars' third round pick and Nichushkin for Hudler.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

That's pretty much irrelevant IMO.

It isn't though.

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Hudler led the league in 5 on 5 points last year, and finished with 76 points. Yes, he struggled the first half of this year, but has recovered in the last month to the level of last year. Whether the first half was injury or whatever, the fact is that, since returning from injury, he has 5G, 10A, 15P in 18 games (a 68P pace). He put up first line points last year, and is putting up first line points right now. So for me, that means the weak first half was an aberration.

How much of that is Hudler? How much of that is playing with Johnny and Monny? How well will Hudler do with another team that doesn't have a Johnny Hockey? Will he be able to get chemistry quickly on a new team? Will they have the right types of players to play him with? There's a few questions around translating his offence to a different team.

Some fans may not agree but a lot of GMs value size, strength and physicality for playoff runs. Sure, pure skill is an asset too but so far the players who seem to have been most coveted and who've moved already are gritty, strong, big guys who fit the tighter checking more physical playoff style hockey. Hudler definitely has some value to any team that lacks pure skill. But his size and skating are detriments that GMs and pro scouts don't necessarily completely overlook and are likely a big part of the reason why they decided not to re-sign him.

He'll have some value. I don't think it's sky high. I don't think you can write off his bad half season as you've done. And I don't think we should overlook that his size and skating isn't ideal for a lot of teams. Some teams value skating more than certain fans do. Some teams value size more than certain fans do. He'll appeal to a smaller subset of teams and thus I don't think a huge bidding war will result.

Russell on the other hand seems to be the type of depth defensemen that will generate a bidding war.