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Old 09-17-2015, 07:08 PM   #1581
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^ truly stunning stupidity. I don't even know what to say anymore.
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Old 09-17-2015, 09:37 PM   #1582
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Wtf, why was that question even given the opportunity for an answer?
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Old 09-17-2015, 10:33 PM   #1583
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Trump holding a q & a on CNN, 1st question from crowd, no joke

"We have a problem in this country, Muslims, and we know our President is one. How are we gonna take care of this problem?"

Trump, "We're gonna look into a lot of things"
McCain had a similar question at a town hall last time around, and admirably shot it down.




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Old 09-17-2015, 10:38 PM   #1584
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Watching it again, the questioner does say something about Muslim terror camps so perhaps Trump was replying to that, but still he could have said something when the questioner was bashing Muslims and calling Obama one.
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That's all great. But right-wingers the world over have shown time and again to not care about scientific evidence at all. So I doubt this changes anything for the type of person that would vote for Trump anyways.
As most of you probably know I spend a lot of time being involved in GMO, Vaxx, climate change debates. I would say that there is really no reality to suggesting the right or left are any better or worse at believing bull#### and denying science and reality.

In my GMO groups I find a lot of conservatives, in the climate change groups its a lot of liberals, but what you learn is that people have their own biases and its hard to challenge and change those beliefs.

You have to as a true skeptic challenge your own ideas and beliefs on a regular basis, expose yourself to other ideas and counter arguments and reason yourself into your positions the best you can. Don't be afraid to admit you were wrong, or even admit you don't know.

We just hosted Stephen Law here in Iceland talking about his book believing in bull#### and it takes a great deal of effort these days to not be fooled by the world we live in, we have so much information available now that there is a ton of misinformation that follows with that availability.
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:52 PM   #1586
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Even some Republicans are calling Trump out on his Muslim comment/question:

Republicans round on Donald Trump in 'Obama Muslim' row
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34296734

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Donald Trump is taking flak from fellow Republicans for not correcting a supporter who said US President Barack Obama was a Muslim and not American.
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South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham said Mr Trump acted inappropriately and he should apologise. Mr Trump has cancelled his appearance at a big Republican event on Friday.
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The criticism has been piling up since a man at Mr Trump's rally in New Hampshire on Thursday night prefaced a question by saying Mr Obama was a Muslim and "not even an American".

The supporter went on to say: "We have a problem in this country - it's called Muslims."

Mr Trump let it go unchallenged and within a few hours, Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton said his failure to denounce "hateful rhetoric" was "disturbing and wrong".
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One thing that has been ignored by the press love in with Trump is that he was a driving force behind the Obama birther, fake controversy.
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Old 09-18-2015, 08:23 PM   #1588
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As most of you probably know I spend a lot of time being involved in GMO, Vaxx, climate change debates. I would say that there is really no reality to suggesting the right or left are any better or worse at believing bull#### and denying science and reality.

In my GMO groups I find a lot of conservatives, in the climate change groups its a lot of liberals, but what you learn is that people have their own biases and its hard to challenge and change those beliefs.

You have to as a true skeptic challenge your own ideas and beliefs on a regular basis, expose yourself to other ideas and counter arguments and reason yourself into your positions the best you can. Don't be afraid to admit you were wrong, or even admit you don't know.

We just hosted Stephen Law here in Iceland talking about his book believing in bull#### and it takes a great deal of effort these days to not be fooled by the world we live in, we have so much information available now that there is a ton of misinformation that follows with that availability.
Thanked but feel it needs to be quoted. When I go on Facebook, Twitter, or watch news networks one of the most troubling things is that generally we seek out and confirm those who share our own view point, while discrediting those presenting different ideas. To really move forward we have to challenge ourselves and recognize the full range of opinions.
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Old 09-19-2015, 02:55 PM   #1589
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I'm really disturbed by a couple of key things in regards to the question at the Trump rally.

a) most of the criticism of the question and lack of Trump's response, has been about the inaccuracy of the President's religion, not the fact that the guy basically said "we have a problem in this country - Muslims". Surely that should be the more disturbing part. The president is the most irrelevant part of this entire statement.

b) the fact that someone has the audacity to so comfortably ask such a horrendous question and not be immediately ripped to shreds (figuratively) by the person at the podium, and the people around him.

Seriously, WTF is wrong with people in the US? This isn't some field in the deep south, this is very public, televised, and mainstream event. There is some crazy fascist and bigoted tendencies occurring that aren't even bubbling below the surface anymore. People are trying to galvanize around their fear and hatred of others.

This kind of question would never go over in Canada.
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If somebody accused our prime minister of being Muslim he's probably get more votes. Why is that an insult?
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While senator McCain's response was better than Trump's, I wouldn't say that's the way to respond to that garbage.

"No ma'am, he's not an Arab, he's a decent guy" wtf?

As for Trump and the questioner, I can't believe crap like that goes on in the US. A proper answer would have been something like "hey I'm going to stop you right there, Muslims are absolutely not a problem in America and are an important part of this great country. Next question please"
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While senator McCain's response was better than Trump's, I wouldn't say that's the way to respond to that garbage.

"No ma'am, he's not an Arab, he's a decent guy" wtf?

As for Trump and the questioner, I can't believe crap like that goes on in the US. A proper answer would have been something like "hey I'm going to stop you right there, Muslims are absolutely not a problem in America and are an important part of this great country. Next question please"
An answer like that would hurt Trump in the polls, considering who his base are
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An answer like that would hurt Trump in the polls, considering who his base are
Yep, the best way to describe Donald Trump is he's a dummy but he's no dummy.
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Old 09-19-2015, 07:01 PM   #1594
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In fact he was probably very happy with that question, as it allowed him to be semi-associated with a stupid belief that his voting base attaches themselves to, but doesn't leave a personal quote trail of him bringing it up or responding directly to it.
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Old 09-20-2015, 04:48 AM   #1595
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The way trump handled that question is absolute proof to me that he had no intention of seeing this run through.

He's going to quit while he's ahead and brag forever about how he could have won, but chose not to.
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Old 09-21-2015, 03:24 PM   #1596
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Scott Walker drops out of race.

Don't sweat on TV.
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Old 09-21-2015, 03:27 PM   #1597
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Scott Walker drops out of race.

Don't sweat on TV.
So we're not getting a wall? Darn.
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Carson didn't help himself with his response to Muslims being presidents either
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Debates killed Trump and Carson. Probably for good. Candidates to watch now are Rubio and Fiorina.
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