5 pot myths debunked

[Ramsayfarian]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

BTW...it is a 'bol' you smoke, not a bowl. Short for bolus.

As it's been already pointed out, it is a bowl that you smoke.

[CaramonLS]

Also people who are high on weed are generally crappy people to be around. I wouldn't care if they didn't act so sh*tty - 10x more annoying than drunk friends.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Ramsayfarian

As it's been already pointed out, it is a bowl that you smoke.

Yeah. Got it. Curious that the meaning of bolus is so fitting.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

I take issue with the fact that some people say weed is not addictive. I've personally had 3 friends set their lives back at least a couple of years (one still is doing it) because of their addiction to marijuana.

Being week mentally isn't the same to me. Which is what I consider anyone "addicted" to marijuana.

When I think addiction I think a heroin addict who gets the sweats and has hallucinations and stuff when they try and stop.

Worst thing a weed addict will ever get is loss of sleep, irritability and loss of appetite and even then it won't last more than a few days.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Being week mentally isn't the same to me. Which is what I consider anyone "addicted" to marijuana.

When I think addiction I think a heroin addict who gets the sweats and has hallucinations and stuff when they try and stop.

Worst thing a weed addict will ever get is loss of sleep, irritability and loss of appetite and even then it won't last more than a few days.

No, the worst thing is not being able to stop.

You can't honestly believe that withdrawl is the only thing stopping an addict from quitting.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

No, the worst thing is not being able to stop.

You can't honestly believe that withdrawl is the only thing stopping an addict from quitting.

Isn't withdrawl the effects of stopping?

When I do a ton of blow and I desperately feel like I need another line or I'm gonna kill myself that is both not being able to stop and withdrawl.

Not being able to stop requires some sort of physical and mental addiction. Part of that addiction is withdrawl. Part of it is not.

Weed is not physically addicting but is mentally addicting. But not like coke or heroin or anything.

Quitting weed isn't easy but it probably ranks somewhere in between not being able to stop jerking it every day and being addicted to shoe shopping.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Isn't withdrawl the effects of stopping?

When I do a ton of blow and I desperately feel like I need another line or I'm gonna kill myself that is both not being able to stop and withdrawl.

Not being able to stop requires some sort of physical and mental addiction. Part of that addiction is withdrawl. Part of it is not.

Weed is not physically addicting but is mentally addicting. But not like coke or heroin or anything.

Quitting weed isn't easy but it probably ranks somewhere in between not being able to stop jerking it every day and being addicted to shoe shopping.

I don't believe withdrawl motivates use. I believe they are two seperate forces, but I don't know the science so I'll research it and get back to you.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

I don't believe withdrawl motivates use. I believe they are two seperate forces, but I don't know the science so I'll research it and get back to you.

Withdrawl is a physical addiction and doesn't necessarily motivate use.

Mental addiction is where the motivation comes from.

They are definitely related though. I see them as part of a bigger picture.

The stronger the withdrawl symptoms probably is a reflection of how strong the mental addiction is. Pot has little to no physical addiction. The only withdrawl symptoms are loss of sleep, appetite and being irritable. That's practically nothing.

Hence my assertion that you must be mentally weak to not be able to resist pot.

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

How many people have got lung cancer and died from cigarettes?

How many people have got lung cancer from only smoking marijuana? 0

How many people smoke cigarettes vs MariJ?
How many people who smoke MariJ are also Cigarettes smokers?
How can I make an argument circular?

A better question would be what % of people who smoke cigs/mairj get lung cancer.

Im making a wild guess where but i assume for every 1 MariJ smoker there is at least 100,000 Cig smokers (taking into account that a survey from 2008 said 30% of North Americans smoke at least half a pack a day). I would then venture to guess that % of lung cancer cases are very similar when it comes to percentage of use.

Bottom Line, SMOKE is bad for your lungs no matter what plant it comes from.

Considering that Marijuana smoke contains 50-70% more carcinogens then tobacco smoke (and the average Marijuana smoker keeps said smoke in their lungs longer) one could make a very educated assumption by saying an individual who smokes Marijuana has a much greater chance of lung degradation over some who smokes the same amount of Tobacco.

[Sainters7]

I'm a pretty regular smoker and I'm sure there's damaging long term effects of weed. You're ingesting and holding smoke in your lungs on a regular basis, how could there not be?

As far as the addictive part goes, I think it is to a certain extent, but if anything its a psychological addiction, not a physical one. I smoked quite a bit during summer holidays, and then when school came back in I stopped. Maybe had a little trouble sleeping the first couple nights and got the occassional craving, but within a week I could've cared less about it.

I have no problem with people not liking it. But WGMG is people that say how bad it is for you & how dumb you are to do it, and then turn around and get shamammered every chance they get. Irony anyone? Having a couple puffs at home to me is no different than having a beer or two when you're unwinding.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

I have no problem with people not liking it. But WGMG is people that say how bad it is for you & how dumb you are to do it, and then turn around and get shamammered every chance they get. Irony anyone? Having a couple puffs at home to me is no different than having a beer or two when you're unwinding.

That pretty much sums up my stance on the issue, and I don't smoke it.

[MRCboicgy]

I personally don't care what you do on your own time and in your own life, having said that, I have just as much of a right to not associate with people who do. Fair enough. Basically, I find myself not associating with the people after I find out it's their hobby. I don't go out of my way to avoid them, or blacklist them, but I know the moving apart happens.

I should clarify what I mean by hobby: basically anyone who talks about doing it. I don't let the world know every time I have a cup of tea, or even every 20th time I have one.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

I'm a pretty regular smoker and I'm sure there's damaging long term effects of weed. You're ingesting and holding smoke in your lungs on a regular basis, how could there not be?

Definitely negative effects. If you've ever seen weed smoked through a filter, you will see it literally drips tar. When smoking weed you are going unfiltered.

I could see how the prevalence with weed smokers would be far lower though, because even a heavy weed smoker doesn't actually take that many puffs in compared to a cigarette smoker.

The person who smokes a half pack of cigarettes a day (regularly light user) probably pulls in 200+ puffs a day. The person who smokes weed very heavily at most 40-50.

In addition, the fewer inhales result in your lungs probably having much more time to recover from the weed.

To say that smoking weed has no negative effects is BS. Tobacco and Marijuana are both plants and not totally disimilar.