When someone's tailgating me, it feels unsafe--especially on a high speed road or in packed traffic. You're god damn right I am going to slow down so they either pass me or get the message that I don't like it.
No, you move over, that's the safest thing to do. Slowing down and being a prick yourself just leads to road rage incidents. Yes the other guy is a dick for tailgating, but just swallow your pride, let him be the only dick, and just get out of the way. Just hope he gets a ticket for tailgating at some point. Don' try and police the roads.
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Really? Never knew that lol, I've never been pulled over in my (short) driving life, and hope to keep it that way.
the last ticket i got, about 4 years ago now, was in BC just outside of Revelstoke. i was following a truck and we were both doing 115-120 in the 90 zone, i figured i was pretty safe since he was in front. however a cop passes us in the opposing lane, flips a u-turn and passes me to pull the first guy over. as he's doing so he puts his hand out the window and motions for me to pull over as well, bummed me right the hell out
now when i'm on a highway and am lucky enough to have a "bait car", i make sure there's a good distance between me and him
now when i'm on a highway and am lucky enough to have a "bait car", i make sure there's a good distance between me and him
My buddy's dad does that. If he sees a car flying down the 401 here in Ontario, he'll follow him, but maybe 1/8 - 1/4 mile behind, just enough to see that car. And he'll match speed, but if that guy gets pulled over, he's far enough back to slow down and not get caught.
I agree that on the highway, the left lane is primarily for passing.
Right lane can go slower based on road conditions. Compact sedans can't compete with the jacked-up 4x4s in inclement weather, and both drivers have to respect each other given the circumstances.
In urban settings it just simply makes sense to follow the speed limit. Not worth the fines, demerits and increased insurance rates that eventually effect you in the pocketbook.
I'm a big advocate of defensive driving. I'm not so stressed out at what the other guy does. Every time you turn the ignition, first take a minute for a deep breath. I can't really stress this enough.
Try to be grounded enough to realize you are not God's gift to driving. Get over yourself. We all share the road and we all have to be vigilant and careful out there.
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When someone's tailgating me, it feels unsafe--especially on a high speed road or in packed traffic. You're god damn right I am going to slow down so they either pass me or get the message that I don't like it.
Here's your homework then...stay out of the left lane for a week and report back to us how many times somebody tailgates you. I bet it will be zero.
A few people have mentioned that staying right except to pass is for highways only. I hope that they are including Deerfoot and Stoney in their definition of a highway, even though they are within the city limits. I understand that this doesn't work on a lot of roads with lots of lights and intersections as people have to turn left, there are lots of stops, etc. But Deerfoot and Stoney are clearly highways.
The reason why the left lane works as a passing lane is because all entering and exiting is done on the right. The right is where the merging, exiting, and crusing happens. The left lane is for passing. Having cars pass on the right (presumably because someone is using the left lane for something other than passing) is downright dangerous. Faster traffic meeting merging and/or slowing traffic = recipe for disaster. There's a reason why passing happens on the left and everything else happens on the right.
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A few people have mentioned that staying right except to pass is for highways only. I hope that they are including Deerfoot and Stoney in their definition of a highway, even though they are within the city limits. I understand that this doesn't work on a lot of roads with lots of lights and intersections as people have to turn left, there are lots of stops, etc. But Deerfoot and Stoney are clearly highways.
The reason why the left lane works as a passing lane is because all entering and exiting is done on the right. The right is where the merging, exiting, and crusing happens. The left lane is for passing. Having cars pass on the right (presumably because someone is using the left lane for something other than passing) is downright dangerous. Faster traffic meeting merging and/or slowing traffic = recipe for disaster. There's a reason why passing happens on the left and everything else happens on the right.
Game, Set, Match.
Anyone who disagrees with this should try driving like a dink in Germany. I've heard the cops will administer a roadside beating for people passing on the right.
I guess I can understand a new Canadian putzing along in the left lane, because their previous vehicle may have been yak. The rest of the left lane lolly-gaggers are ignorant, plain and simple.
Game, Set, Match.
Anyone who disagrees with this should try driving like a dink in Germany. I've heard the cops will administer a roadside beating for people passing on the right.
I guess I can understand a new Canadian putzing along in the left lane, because their previous vehicle may have been yak. The rest of the left lane lolly-gaggers are ignorant, plain and simple.
If the Local police in the Quebec municipalities and the Quebec Provincial police actually cared, a driver passing on the right will receive a ticket.
In most places, it's frowned upon but not illegal... in some places (like Quebec) it is down right illegal, if they really give a crap.
I've also heard out some European countries handing out tickets for holding up the left lane.
It'd suck if anyone ever got pulled over by this guy:
Did they even get a ticket? Doing 28 MPH over the limit in a 70 zone? That's dangerous speeding. 100 MPH = 160 isn't it? The video cut off when the officer left - but he had handed them back their rental agreement.
Let's say I'm a police officer watching all this unfold. There's a row of cars going 70 in a 50 zone, then you wanted to pass someone that was doing 45 in the right lane. You pull into the left doing 50 and you stay there and the people doing 70 are coming up behind you.
If you were to move over, I'd give the guy doing 70 in a 50 zone a ticket because he was speeding.
However, if you stayed in the left after you'd pass and the line doing 70 approaches you and has to slow down because you refuse to move. I'd give both you and the people doing 70 a ticket.
You for obstructing the flow of traffic and the other guys for speeding.
I guess this is a pretty good reason why I'm not a police officer.
What do you think happens if an unmarked CPS car pulls up behind you on Deerfoot doing 105 and you have to speed up to have room to move over? They don't praise you for your good thinking to keep traffic moving, I can promise you that much.
They give you a ticket and go on their merry way. Sure it might only be if it is close to the end of the month, but you are seriously fooling yourself if you think that CPS won't pull you over in that situation.
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From this thread you can really tell who the good drivers are and who are the D.bag drivers who think they are better drivers than anyone else. (keep in mind I'm calling you a d.bag driver, not a D.bag in general).
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From this thread you can really tell who the good drivers are and who are the bagdrivers who think they are better drivers than anyone else. (keep in mind I'm calling you a bagdriver, not a bag in general).
Yes to Crowchild, Deerfoot, Stoney, Anderson, Blackfoot, Barlow(s), John Laurie, McKnight, Sarcee, 22x, 14th Street, etc.
On streets where there are multiple turns off both the right and the left side (eg MacLeod), it's not such a big deal.
-Crowchild (just not from the river to 24th)
-Anderson has left and right lane turn offs so this doesn't really fit
-Barlow left and right lane turn offs, lots of trucks in either lane, so doesn't work except by the airport really
-Mcknight in the deep NE should be like this
-Stoney for sure
-22x is a road so it doesn't really matter
-I don't get why 14th street is on your list too
Really I would just say Deerfoot and Stoney. And basically Stoney is the only road you can reasonable keep to the right on, because Deerfoot is too pack most of the time for it to really matter.
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1) yes, if some yahoo wants to speed, i will move over to the right. not because i respect this person, but because i prefer to let the yahoo's get as far away from me as possible.
2) the left lane is NOT for speeding. the entire notion comes from the fact that if for some reason your car becomes incapable of going the speed limit, you are supposed to stay in the right lane. this is NOT the same thing as "left lane is for speeding".
look, im not saying i dont hate those jerkoff's who drive like they are afraid of the road and have no idea whats going on around them, im simply responding to the notion its ok to speed as long as you are in the left lane.
Just to confirm, no one in this thread thinks that the left lane thing applies to city streets right?
To me this only applies to freeways in Calgary. I would say Stoney Trail, Deerfoot, and Crowchild are the three main ones for me. I don't think it should apply to roads with turn offs on the left side.
