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bubbsy · 02-20-2010, 11:22 AM

... the more i think about it, the more i think iginla is likely injured. They tried it out, as he came back, but not 100%. Naturally, after the game they downplay the injury, as that kind of knowledge isn't something you want exposed in a short tournament like this.

HPLovecraft · 02-20-2010, 11:22 AM

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All this dumb in one thread makes me brain hurt.

I know, right...

Playfair's Hairgel · 02-20-2010, 11:23 AM

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YOU DON`T TELL ONE OF YOUR TOP GOAL SCORERS STATISTICALLY OVER HIS CAREER THAT YOU DON`T NEED HIM TO SCORE!!!!

Like I`ve said repeatedly this guy has his personal favorites and that is fine. He will ride them whether they are playing good or not and that is absolutely the wrong idea and game plan. In a elimination tourny you gotta play who is playing well and not your personal favorites. His quote summed it up perfectly, the guy acknowledged the entire line wasnt playing well but he found MORE ice time for Nash (hasn`t accomplished anything in his career) and Crosby, but benched Iginla. If nobody can see that they have absolutely no clue in what they are watching, PERIOD!

I really think you guys are missing the boat...what he means he doesnt need Iggy to score goals. Iggy is there to accept another role, if you look at all the world junior teams players who are leading scorers in either there leagues or there teams have had to adapt to different roles. I think we have been very sucessful.

If they wanted pure goal scoring there are alot of other players who would have been chosen. I think you guys are over reacting.

Do you really think he is just that stupid to not play iggy; I am sure he is looking for or at something for the stretch run. In this tournament there is no time for chemistry; so as a coach you have to get creative and try different players in different situations; and make on the fly decisions.

Relax everyone.

Blaster86 · 02-20-2010, 11:48 AM

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I know, right...

it's "inorite".

Ark2 · 02-20-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Playfair's Hairgel

I really think you guys are missing the boat...what he means he doesnt need Iggy to score goals. Iggy is there to accept another role, if you look at all the world junior teams players who are leading scorers in either there leagues or there teams have had to adapt to different roles. I think we have been very sucessful.

If they wanted pure goal scoring there are alot of other players who would have been chosen. I think you guys are over reacting.

Do you really think he is just that stupid to not play iggy; I am sure he is looking for or at something for the stretch run. In this tournament there is no time for chemistry; so as a coach you have to get creative and try different players in different situations; and make on the fly decisions.

Relax everyone.

Yeah, we get it. People are saying that Babcock is stupid for not looking to the best goal scorer over the last decade to score goals. That what Jarome Iginla does. He scores goals. Telling him that he just needs to focus on hitting, and expecting him to hit and check makes little sense. What makes even less sense is that guys like Perry and Getzlaf are expected to be the goal scorers. Between the two of them, you have one 30 goal season, yet these are the guys that are being looked to to put up goals over Iginla. As I said, that is just baffling.

CGY12 · 02-20-2010, 01:32 PM

Everybody on this team needs to check and be hard to play against, it doesn't only apply to Jarome. Which makes the comment of not needing him to score a puzzling one considering he is 1 of 2 guys on the team that is a natural goal scorer. The truth of the matter is their were better options other than Iggy if that is the role you were looking for him to fill.

FanIn80 · 02-20-2010, 04:38 PM

If they wanted a Kris Draper, they should have brought a Kris Draper.

There are bigger guys on this team than Jarome Iginla. Telling a physically bigger 30-goal scorer to score goals, while you tell a physically smaller 50-goal scorer to check people has all the makings of a future rocket surgeon.

The Ditch · 02-20-2010, 04:53 PM

Yeah I don't get it, why even have him on the team then they could have picked better players to suit that role.

Iggy Snipe · 02-20-2010, 05:20 PM

If Babcock does not need Iginla scoring goals than he is a f'ing idiot. No two ways about it. Jarome is a two time 50 goal scorer and deserves to be playing big minutes. No one on the team has played or done anything more or better than Iginla.

Babcock obviously has something against Iginla, and it is really too bad because team Canada is not as good without Iginla. Not playing Iginla makes Canada not as big of a threat. Thats like russia not playing Kovalchuck. It just doesn't make sense.

Iggy Snipe · 02-20-2010, 05:35 PM

I feel bad for Iggy. He deserves better treatment. He is just such a beauty. Shame on Babcock for not playing Iginla. He is just as good or better than any player on that team with exception of Sid.

HPLovecraft · 02-20-2010, 06:44 PM

Let's hope Babcock has better mystical NHL coaching powers than Ron Wilson...

VladtheImpaler · 02-20-2010, 06:47 PM

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I feel bad for Iggy. He deserves better treatment. He is just such a beauty. Shame on Babcock for not playing Iginla. He is just as good or better than any player on that team with exception of Sid.

You guys are really unbelievable. By the end of the Olympics, if this thread keeps going, Iggy will be interchangeable with Orr, Messier, Howe and Gretzky...
For all we know, the only reason Iginla was even chosen was because he is one of (if not the) most respected players in the NHL, to provide leadership, etc. Iggy has had one good month this season, so on form he could have been left off the team. So, when Babcock says Iggy is not there to score goals he pretty much confirms that - if Yzerman & Co wanted a player for pure scoring in that spot they would have taken Stamkos, maybe St. Louis or Carter. Obviously, they picked Iggy in a grinder/veteran role. Is that a mistake? Perhaps, but you guys wailing about Babcock is completely misguided.

HPLovecraft · 02-20-2010, 06:58 PM

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You guys are really unbelievable. By the end of the Olympics, if this thread keeps going, Iggy will be interchangeable with Orr, Messier, Howe and Gretzky...
For all we know, the only reason Iginla was even chosen was because he is one of (if not the) most respected players in the NHL, to provide leadership, etc. Iggy has had one good month this season, so on form he could have been left off the team. So, when Babcock says Iggy is not there to score goals he pretty much confirms that - if Yzerman & Co wanted a player for pure scoring in that spot they would have taken Stamkos, maybe St. Louis or Carter. Obviously, they picked Iggy in a grinder/veteran role. Is that a mistake? Perhaps, but you guys wailing about Babcock is completely misguided.

It's been said before, but if that were the case, guys like Nash, etc., shouldn't be on this team either since they're having seasons on par with Iginla's and/or worse.

questionmotives · 02-20-2010, 07:03 PM

Dear Mike Babcock,

If we do not win the gold medal let me be the first to say go %^& yourself.

VladtheImpaler · 02-20-2010, 07:08 PM

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It's been said before, but if that were the case, guys like Nash, etc., shouldn't be on this team either since they're having seasons on par with Iginla's and/or worse.

That's a fair comment. I personally do not like Nash at all - he floats the vast majority of the time.

CGY12 · 02-20-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

You guys are really unbelievable. By the end of the Olympics, if this thread keeps going, Iggy will be interchangeable with Orr, Messier, Howe and Gretzky...
For all we know, the only reason Iginla was even chosen was because he is one of (if not the) most respected players in the NHL, to provide leadership, etc. Iggy has had one good month this season, so on form he could have been left off the team. So, when Babcock says Iggy is not there to score goals he pretty much confirms that - if Yzerman & Co wanted a player for pure scoring in that spot they would have taken Stamkos, maybe St. Louis or Carter. Obviously, they picked Iggy in a grinder/veteran role. Is that a mistake? Perhaps, but you guys wailing about Babcock is completely misguided.

You truly got to be an idiot if you believe this team was chosen strictly based on this year and not on reputation/proven players. Even if it was based on this year their are guys you don't even mention that have similar numbers. Iggy isn't a 4th line grinder! Why would you select a guy for a team that is involved in such a short elimination game tournament that has never played in that role EVER in his entire career and hope he can adapt and excel at it? Why not just take somebody who is familiar with the role and is known to be great at it? This makes absolutely no sense and the people who don't understand this are clueless.

VladtheImpaler · 02-20-2010, 07:32 PM

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You truly got to be an idiot if you believe this team was chosen strictly based on this year and not on reputation/proven players. Even if it was based on this year their are guys you don't even mention that have similar numbers. Iggy isn't a 4th line grinder! Why would you select a guy for a team that is involved in such a short elimination game tournament that has never played in that role EVER in his entire career and hope he can adapt and excel at it? Why not just take somebody who is familiar with the role and is known to be great at it? This makes absolutely no sense and the people who don't understand this are clueless.

Iginla was once a physical presence and an excellent defensive player - maybe Yzerman hasn't seen him play in the last 3 years?

CGY12 · 02-20-2010, 07:39 PM

Their is a big difference in being a physical presence and good defensive player playing on the top 2 lines than being a good defensive player and physical presence on the 4th line playing in shut down role against the other teams best line.

VladtheImpaler · 02-20-2010, 07:41 PM

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Their is a big difference in being a physical presence and good defensive player playing on the top 2 lines than being a good defensive player and physical presence on the 4th line playing in shut down role against the other teams best line.

Well, I'm sure they would have taken Madden and Draper if they weren't too old. I can't really think of any other high-end Canadian checkers...

gallione11 · 02-20-2010, 07:44 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/van...ress&type=lgns

Sorry for not hotlinking it ; couldn't get it to happen on my phone. However this states Mike Richards took the third spot on Crosby's line today in practice. Iginla still on the 4th...