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Old 06-24-2009, 11:11 AM   #141
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I wish I could see that animal action. My yard is pretty lame. Only robins. I gotta put out more seeds or something.
It's pretty cool. A magpie will sit on the fence, a robin will swoop down and try to knock it off. Then they'll both take to the air and try to hit each other. All the while both are screaming their heads off.
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:13 AM   #142
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Saying humans are not animals is ridiculous! I cannot believe some people believe this, this is something you learn in public school!!! Oh boy...the superiority complex of some people!
Animal, vegetable or mineral?
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:53 AM   #143
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Humans are highly intelligent animals. Which is why I have a deep respect for animal intelligence and especially those animals that have complicated social interactions (or just have sex for fun like Dolphins and Monkeys and Apes).
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^^that sums it up nicely.
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The Magpie's are a**holes and they're annoying...





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You don't believe we are animals? lol. We are from the primate family, science has proved this. I hate to tell you this but you are in fact an advanced ape.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
Sorry, pet peeve, science hasn't proved anything. Science only disproves.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:16 PM   #148
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Sorry, pet peeve, science hasn't proved anything. Science only disproves.
I hear the jury's still out on science.
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I hear the jury's still out on science.
I don't think so. If you're being funny it went woosh right over my head!
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Man, watching TheFonz's posted videos I could feel my blood pressure rise.

Holy dinah do I hate magpies and crows. I may take up shooting them with a bbgun as a hobby.

I will give them this, though - they sure are clever. They're smart enough to stay behind their 'victim' as much as possible.
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They just said on the news that this is the time of year that magpies are born which is why there's so many. She also said the best way to keep them away is to keep a lid on your garbage cans.
I live in a condo building, i have no garbage cans and our dumpsters are behind locked doors. Yet those ba$tards still sit outside my window every morning at 5am and scream their faces off.
Instead of kill the wabbit...KILL THE MAGPIES!
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:37 AM   #152
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I will give them this, though - they sure are clever. They're smart enough to stay behind their 'victim' as much as possible.
Confirming my theory that magpies are the Burrows/Keslers of the avian world.

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Confirming my theory that magpies are the Burrows/Keslers of the avain world.
ha ha... good point! I swear I saw them pulling their victims' hair in those clips too!
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The fundamental flaw of your argument is that these rights conflict. A lion, for example, exercises its right to stay alive by violating the similar rights of its prey. There is no way where you can uphold the rights of both predator and prey, because it's not a positive sum game where all stakeholders can end up ahead, it is a zero or even negative sum game where some participants must die.

If humans are exactly like other animals, then animals that do not wish to be eaten by us need to succeed in avoiding our predation. Morality has nothing to with it any more than a lion eating a wildebeest can be termed immoral. If, on the other hand, humans are different because we can apply moral judgments to such acts, then your premise that we are nothing more than animals is false, and thus all the argumentation that follows is also necessarily suspect.

You can't have it both ways. Humans cannot be treated as animals for one part of your argument and treated entirely differently - as moral actors - for another part of it. Either we are animals and may act as animals do - without reference to morality - or we are more than just animals and therefore can be morally self-consistent in treating humans differently than other beings.
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Man, watching TheFonz's posted videos I could feel my blood pressure rise.

Holy dinah do I hate magpies and crows. I may take up shooting them with a bbgun as a hobby.

I will give them this, though - they sure are clever. They're smart enough to stay behind their 'victim' as much as possible.
You're not going to kill them with a BB gun. If you're really lucky, you might plunk one with a pellet gun. Magpies are really hard to kill though because they're mostly feathers. Their body is very small, so a shotgun is the weapon of choice for magpies.
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:53 AM   #156
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Geez, you guys see those videos and see them as a-holes. Sure if they were people they would be a-holes but they aren't bound by any rules of society all I see are very smart and interactive adaptable animals that are fun to watch and are pranksters as well.

I would love for them to sit on my window and wake me up. It'd be freaking awesome. I'm so happy when I see magpies everyday.
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I presume you all know the rhyme and the superstition attached to (wonderful) magpies?
1 for sorrow
2 for joy
3 for a girl
4 for a boy
5 for silver
6 for gold
7 for a secret never to be told
8 for a wish
9 for a kiss
10 for a bird that you must not miss.



And the superstition is that if you see just one magpie (1 for sorrow) you should salute him and say, 'Hello, Mr Magpie. Send my regards to the wife and family,' - then the sorrow part of the rhyme is negated.
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I presume you all know the rhyme and the superstition attached to (wonderful) magpies?
1 for sorrow
2 for joy
3 for a girl
4 for a boy
5 for silver
6 for gold
7 for a secret never to be told
8 for a wish
9 for a kiss
10 for a bird that you must not miss.



And the superstition is that if you see just one magpie (1 for sorrow) you should salute him and say, 'Hello, Mr Magpie. Send my regards to the wife and family,' - then the sorrow part of the rhyme is negated.

We have like 15 on our acerage. If I see only one its because I shot the rest. Then I would have to say "Hello, Mr Magpie. Send my regards to the wife and family, in hell" as I squeezed the trigger
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We have like 15 on our acerage. If I see only one its because I shot the rest. Then I would have to say "Hello, Mr Magpie. Send my regards to the wife and family, in hell" as I squeezed the trigger
Aaaah! Not a believer in Karma then?
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They just said on the news that this is the time of year that magpies are born which is why there's so many. She also said the best way to keep them away is to keep a lid on your garbage cans.
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Well,

That "Special Feature" on global was completely useless!

"We need to figure out a way to co-exist" ? ? ? ? ...Really!

How to co-exist with Magpies:
-Use ear plugs when you go to bed.
-Don't let you children play in your yard.
-All pets must do their "buisiness" indoors.
-Sell your patio furniture (preferably before it gets covered in pooh).
-Never go outside!

Alternate Method:
-Terrorize Them!! ... with bb guns and garden hoses until they "exist" in somebody elses yard!

PS:

For those of you that have been following this thread, My back yard has been Magpie FREE for 5 consecutive days now!
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