CTV hijacks SuperBowl [MRG]

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Joborule

It's not even about that even. It's that I'm not getting the station that I paid for.

If I'm watching something on an American channel, I expect the viewing as intended on the american channel, not a Canadian one which is a completely difference channel.

That happens 365 days of the year, though. It's not like it only happens for the Super Bowl. People only care about it for the Super Bowl.

CTV pays the NFL a premium price to be the exclusive broadcaster of the Super Bowl in Canada, so if it came down to it, the NFL would side with CTV on the issue.

We're lucky the CRTC allows simsubbing at all because they could just as easily say that the Canadian networks who hold exclusive rights to content could ask for the channels to be blocked outright when they're airing any such programming (which the Canadian networks have asked for in the past, and this is what happened when WWE Raw was on Spike TV in the States for a few years because TSN had exclusive rights to the show in Canada). They could even block time shifted shows if they wanted to really be jerks about it.

Without simsubbing, watching the US-based networks would be like trying to watch shows on Hulu or the US networks' websites..."Sorry, this content is not available in your region".

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by getbak

That happens 365 days of the year, though. It's not like it only happens for the Super Bowl. People only care about it for the Super Bowl.

It bugs me then too. Like I said, I'm paying to watch the game/show on NBC, not on CTV.

Canadian companies want people watching their channel? Actually produce original crap that people want to watch.

Originally Posted by ken0042

I am slingboxing the game so I can`t be sure, but did CTV cut to commercial early when they showed the replay of JPP getting injured?

Keep track of any issues like that, and be sure to complain to the CRTC.

They sure did.

[Gundo]

And these are all reasons why I don't have any issue owning a FTA system and watching the Dish Network feed.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

It is a pretty ####ed up world when people watching one of it's great sporting events are freaking out because they can't watch commercials.

What it says is that, ultimately, the football game is garbage, and people really do watch for the commercials.

The easy solution is for the advertisers to sell their commercials to CTV as well.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

What it says is that, ultimately, the football game is garbage, and people really do watch for the commercials.

The easy solution is for the advertisers to sell their commercials to CTV as well.

Many of them are not suitable for Canada or that may be an option

[Tinordi]

Who cares? It's only a bunch of commercials.

[Northendzone]

I fail to understand the rhubarb.....I can't believe folks sit around for four hours to watch commercials that were up on YouTube last week.....

[SportsJunky]

This isn't really about the commercials...

[getbak]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

This isn't really about the commercials...

That's the only difference. The actual content of the broadcast is the same.

[SportsJunky]

As others have stated in the thread, we have paid for something we are not getting. This isn't about the commercials. This is about being force fed things that we don't want. Especially when we have paid for the U.S. channels. Yes, I know this goes on all year long but most people don't really start to complain until Superbowl time.

[Resolute 14]

You are paying for the broadcast, not the commercials that fund them.

It is silly to pretend otherwise.

[SportsJunky]

Exactly, the U.S. broadcast. I could give a flying **** about the commercials.

[OILFAN #81]

3rd year I have lived in the US......a couple of commercials had me chuckling. There was a good Dorito's one and a good M and M one.

[Jimmy Stang]

A domestic broadcaster bought the rights to show a foreign broadcast - of course they are going to sell their own ads to recover their costs and to profit from it. I'd imagine that any other country would have their own domestic ads as well.

Plus, with the advertisers' primary goal being for these ads to go "viral", they're not exactly going to be hard to find, are they?

The Canadian advertisers could step it up a few notches, for sure, and Budweiser should be commended for actually putting a bit of effort into a Canadian ad. But I certainly don't expect CTV to ante up the cash for a broadcast and then take a pass on the advertising revenues.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

I fail to understand the rhubarb.....I can't believe folks sit around for four hours to watch commercials that were up on YouTube last week.....

No- it's that American commercials are designed to entertain; and are not repeated to the point of making you want to boycott the advertizer. Then you have the Superbowl where the entertainment value is dialed up- giving you four solid hours of TV watching enjoyment.

That, and the Canadian commercials smack you in the face to show the Simsub experiment has failed. The idea was to allow Canadian broadcasters exclusive rights to shows so they could afford to produce quality programming of their own. Instead they just buy more American shows; and make up the Canadian content by either showing 8 hours of news, or things like "Save the children", etc.

One could argue that Cancon on the radio has been a success. As much as many of us hate Nickelback, they are selling albums and making it on the international stage. That couldn't have happened without the CRTC and Cancon. At the very least it does make me happy to see Canadian entertainers being successful.

[Regular_John]

Originally Posted by ken0042

One could argue that Cancon on the radio has been a success. As much as many of us hate Nickelback, they are selling albums and making it on the international stage. That couldn't have happened without the CRTC and Cancon. At the very least it does make me happy to see Canadian entertainers being successful.

That's actually my biggest beef with Nickelback, they are a marginally talented band with some "OK" songs. But they milked the cancon rules within an inch of it's life and got a huge payout as a result.

But having said that, I'll agree with your first assessment that "One could argue that Cancon on the radio has been a success" if you take Nickelback out of the equation, bands like Arcade Fire, The New Pornographers and heck anything played in CBC Radio 3 (internet I know) has really given us a great crop of homegrown artist, and yes cancon probably gave a lot of them a leg up when it came to radio play.

Regardless, the CRTC needs a major overhall, "preserving nationality" has in practice become "preserving monopolies" for Canadian tech companies (rogers, bell, I'm looking at you).

[DuffMan]

I don't care about missing the American commercials, but the commercials they do show are for shows they carry that only houswives watch. I don't even know most of the shows but have no desire to ever watch them. GCB is a good example. At least show some respect for your audience for a major sporting event you have exclusive rights for.

[calgaryred]

I could careless about the commercials, they are easily seen on the computer if it's THAT important. At least I get to see the game, I was in Italy this time last year and no one was showing the Superbowl, no one was talking about it, I had to check the score on TSN.ca.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

A domestic broadcaster bought the rights to show a foreign broadcast - of course they are going to sell their own ads to recover their costs and to profit from it. I'd imagine that any other country would have their own domestic ads as well.

Plus, with the advertisers' primary goal being for these ads to go "viral", they're not exactly going to be hard to find, are they?

The Canadian advertisers could step it up a few notches, for sure, and Budweiser should be commended for actually putting a bit of effort into a Canadian ad. But I certainly don't expect CTV to ante up the cash for a broadcast and then take a pass on the advertising revenues.

Good post, I agree.

For all those complaining about sim subbing issues, network tv is essentially simsubbed for American's too. The local affiliate retransmits the broadcast with their commercials, and they do have their own issues with not cutting back to the program in time, etc. Don't even get me started about how much the affiliates screwed things up in early days of HD! There are cases where my local affiliate doesn't even show a forth round of a major golf tournament to show a college B-ball game.

[troutman]

The Simsubs would be a good band name.