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Old 07-09-2008, 03:11 PM   #141
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A lot of interesting points
There are some good points in there Worth. But let's take something that we know could not be a conspiracy and see how many of them fit. Looking at Hurricane Katrina:

- Video evidence of the levies failing not released.
- People were probably advised to be careful about going to parts of New Orleans
- The Federal gov't completely screwed up emergency relief when there was actually a FEMA office in New Orleans
- Gov't didn't allow some groups into the devastated areas.

I could go on. The bottom line is the American gov't cannot be as incompetent as so many people claim and pull off the greatest conspiracy in history.

JFK- that could have been a conspiracy as all you would have needed was maybe a dozen people involved. But 911 would have required hundreds if not thousands.

The one other tidbit- firefighters hearing explosions. I wouldn't doubt that for a second. I know our server room at work has compressed gas tanks in it. Yes- designed for fighting fires. But if the system was put offline by a plane knocking out power, and the tanks were subjcted to heat, they would explode. And anybody who has ever put a can of shaving cream or baked beans into a fire knows it sounds like any other explosion.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:17 PM   #142
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  • Large put options on American Airlines and United Airlines weeks before the attacks (Link)


$2.5 Million for a few investors on a few trades only suggests that small-time traders were either tipped off about the attacks (Maybe someone connected to Al Queda), or not related at all to the attacks. The only thing that's unusual is the unclaimed part. $2.5 million isn't a lot of money when we're talking the derivatives market. I'd imagine that there's thousands of traders raking in that on a daily basis. With the amount of leverage available to an options trader it only would have required money in the tens to a hundred of thousand or so (Wow big spenders, must have been really high up in the government to afford that cash outlay, so therefore it's clearly connected government types making these trades!)to buy the put options up front required to make that return. I bet there were a number of put options bought in the preceding days on legitimate trades. Being bearish on airline stocks after the tech bubble burst would have hardly been an outlandish investment strategy.
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