Alberta women cross-border shopping for men

[SeeGeeWhy]

Originally Posted by fotze

The problem is that no one (especially in this thread) thinks that they themself are wrong, ever. Everyone's personal philosophy is the correct one. The way they approach life (and dating) is the way that everyone should. No one here is shallow or out for money. Who are all these people who are doing things all wrong.

Also, acting confident and being actually confident are two mutually exclusive things.
You want someone who has no self-confidence issues, well sorry they don't exist, no one is perfect and no one really believes they are perfect.

I have dated very few women in my life, I'm no troll, dwarf maybe, but no troll and it is no one else's fault but my own. So if you are having trouble finding a mate, look within and see that the own lever you have in the situation is you, and that you might be the problem. If it isn't working, do something different, drastically different. Hate country music, go to Ranchmens. You are conservative, be a slut for while. You're a slut, stop being a whore. Don't drink, become a drunk. Hate short guys, date some.

Solid post.

[return to the red]

shiz, she obviously hasn't met me, I've got more game then Parker Brothers. At least I think I used to until my wife took my game piece away

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by return to the red

shiz, she obviously hasn't met me, I've got more game then Parker Brothers. At least I think I used to until my wife took my game piece away

Mr. Bobbit I presume.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by rubecube

That pretty much sums me up. I don't consider myself ridiculously attractive or anything but I know that a lot of people were shocked when I started dating my current girlfriend.

I found my biggest problem for picking up girls when I was single was that I was terrible at masking my contempt for the really unintelligent ones. That combined with alcohol consumption in a bar often landed me in the belligerence hall of fame.

I'm a very shy and quiet individual which didn't help when trying to get dates with the opposite sex. I got labeled a lot as being shallow and one gal had the audacity tell me there was nothing to me. Mostly because of first impressions. They weren't interested in giving you a chance, figuring that first impressions must be right. I should add that this is NOT representative of all women out there. Sad part is i got a lot of that in my 20's making the dating scene a TOTAL turn off.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

A little OT but do you guys find more women attracted to you when you're in a relationship? I've been hit on more since I've had a girlfriend than in the previous years that I was single. I even had one smokin' hot blonde flat out ask me on a date when she was standing behind me at an ATM machine. It's some kind of strange phenomenom.

Why do you think divorce rates are so high? Men get married, than all of a sudden younger hotter women seem to be hitting on them everywhere they look. Dude figures he's still got game, get's rid of his wife thinking he'll land one of these girls, but than...back to the way it was before!

Probably comes down to preception/self awareness. When you're dating or married to someone maybe you feel better about yourself, and you notice things that when you're single you'd completely miss. I know ever since I've been married it seems like women flirt with me a lot more fequently than when I was single.

As for this woman, I wonder how much duty and GST you'd have to pay to import a man from the US?

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

I have a problem with this post, FF.

All advertising is designed for demographics. If you're noticing an add, you're in the demographic... like it or not. A guy is going to look at a naked or near-naked chick no matter how "hot" her peers would rate her. Those ads are more designed to make women feel bad about themselves and buy whatever product will help make them look better - it is NOT about programming mankind into liking a certain kind of woman.

Yes, all advertising is designed for demographics. Unfortunately (fortunately?) for me, I watch a lot of 'men's' programming.. so really, I'm watching advertising for men. How many tampon ads do you see during a hockey game? That's what I thought. And I never said anything about 'liking' a certain kind of woman, I said finding them attractive. There's a huge difference.

I often see guys with girls that are "better looking" than them and vice versa. Those are people who understand that there is more to life than the surface.

I agree. This discussion has been hashed out... women tend to 'give' on looks to 'get' in other areas. Men, not so much.

Bottom line is that you have to do what makes you happy and I am sorry to say but a lot of your language seems to focus on things that seem to make you confused or unhappy.

Yeah. That's it. I'm confused. I don't understand men. Duh.

[Cowboy89]

Maybe those girls in the article should order a poster:

http://www.despair.com/dysfunction.html

[Sainters7]

One thing I question about these girls who went south. I wonder if they're confusing "more open, aggressive guys" with being in "vacation mode". There's a certain phenomenon that happens to people - which Im sure I dont have to explain, as we've probably all had it - where you open up more with strangers(and are generally more assertive with the opposite sex) when on vacation in another city than you are when you're at home. I'm willing to bet these women were being alot more forward and open with guys in the States(especially considering thats the whole reason they went down there) than they are back here in Alberta. Hence they met alot more guys and had an easier time of it.

Also, for these girls(and a couple on here) complaining about guys not being forward enough at the bars: have you ever thought about approaching them? I know everyone likes to be chased, and traditionally the guy approaches the girl. But it's not the 1950's anymore, girls approaching guys isn't unheard of. Not every single guy is aggressive and assertive at the bars, it doesnt mean they're not men. When I was single and younger at the bars I could be pretty shy(unless I was blasted, but then my delivery was just sloppy). Didn't mean I wasn't a "man", as I've always known what I wanted and I think have always been a confident person. But I'm just naturally a quieter person, and the aggressive bar atmosphere could be intimidating. I loved it when girls would approach me, it'd make it so much easier. If you are always sitting back waiting to be chased, you may miss out on the person you are looking for.

[old-fart]

Originally Posted by troutman

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

That hate me 'cause they ain't me.

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by fotze

I was in Mexico a couple weeks ago and the resort was around 60% latino. Mostly from central america, south america or portugal/spain. That is clearly one culture where looks don't seem to matter as far as the women are concerned. Reams of really fat rude men with supermodels. They either 1. have money, 2. the women are not superficial or 3. the men have 'donkey dinks'.

I have noticed this as well. I just figured it was because I find most Latino women really hot.

[Jetsfan]

This is just the laguage women use to shame men into doing what they want. The girls are really saying that "men are afraid to talk to them" when this doesn't work they'll say "some woman must have really hurt you and now your just angry and bitter" followed by "you're just a weird loser who can't attract a woman" Finally, when this doesn't work they'll bring out the nuke..."You must gay." If any of you really want to know why its getting harder to date goto Wikapedia and type in "Marriage Strike" I also recommend standyourground.com forum and any commentary by Tom Leykis and Marc Rudov.

[RougeUnderoos]

Okay, having read that idiotic article and seen the picture...

There is nothing wrong with the way those dames look, far as I'm concerned. If I saw them in public I'd think they were good lookin'. Not really my type at all, but they aren't single because they are ugly.

And the whiniest one is actually a nurse. Yeah, guys hate nurses.

What really struck me though is that there is a whole bunch of them that have decided to move to the States to "find a man". That sets off all sorts of alarm bells.

A crowd of decent lookin' chicks in their 20's and not one of them can get a boyfriend? There is something wrong here with these people.

If I knew of a crew of 27-year-old guys who felt they had to leave the country to find a girlfriend I'd think they were a bunch of losers.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by Jetsfan

If any of you really want to know why its getting harder to date goto Wikapedia and type in "Marriage Strike"

Not to say there isn't some truth to this, but that's one of the worst wiki articles i've ever read. Or atleast the begining is, it put me off it enough to stop reading well before the end. In fact i don't think i've ever seen a wiki article without a single reference before. In fact after looking up some of the links I am 99% sure that "Article" is just some well disguised spam looking to generate some cash for whoever edited it. Follow some of the links and they bring you to those parked URLs who try to get your to click on their links to generate revenue for them.

A 'marriage strike' is the social phenomenon of men seeking to avoid marriage. The 'marriage strike' specifically refers to the action of men living within the Western world. Advocates of the marriage strike believe that after a considered cost-benefit analysis, the legal contract that is modern marriage no longer represents an attractive option for men living in the West's changed legal, economic, sociological, cultural and demographic environment.

I know a couple people who are married, a couple who want to one day and some who don't want to and i've never heard of one of them doing a cost-benefit analysis outside of the guy from craiglist fame responding to the gold digger who could "only" date guys who made 250k.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

What really struck me though is that there is a whole bunch of them that have decided to move to the States to "find a man". That sets off all sorts of alarm bells.

A crowd of decent lookin' chicks in their 20's and not one of them can get a boyfriend? There is something wrong here with these people.

If I knew of a crew of 27-year-old guys who felt they had to leave the country to find a girlfriend I'd think they were a bunch of losers.

Three simple paragraphs sums up their whinefest nicely. Give the man a burger.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by FireFly

And why can't they take the initiative?

Why can't you?

Originally Posted by FireFly

I said I'm plump. I'm not fat. I'm curvy. I'm a size 12. That's too big?

Shopping for my Halloween costume last year (Freddy Mercury) completely changed my perception of women's sizes. I know I don't have child bearing hips, but I'm a size 2! I thought size 2s were skinny little anorexics, but apparently not.

For me though, the problem with you is you're too old.

[Cliche]

[Dion]

[Thor]

Its stories like this that are causing men by the millions to read books like 'The Game' and take the art of the pickup by various 'gurus' like Mystery, Style and countless others.

I think because men in at least North America have in the last number of decades become more 'sensitive' because of the way society has changed, this has directly affected the dating scene. You goto places where men are the same they were decades ago like Italy or pretty much Latin countries and those places are full of the machismo, aggressive and pushy guys which I'm sure this Edmonton lady would love

Women in NA complained in the old days that men were to cold and wanted more sensitivity. So men became more sensitive, now they are all scared of rejection lol

I think the next logical step is teaching in school some type of course on dating, relationships and the art of the pickup. The vast majority of men have no skills on approaching women, and women don't have to be the ones to 'usually' do anything more than wait for a man to approach them.

Ironically a friend taped a Dr Phil show (I know, sad) that had 2 guys from the mystery method on the show talking about teaching guys how to approach women; almost half the females in the audience were creeped out by the idea and thought it was shady.

So I guess as a guy you are damned if you learn how to become better at the act of seduction, or a loser if you don't learn anything.

[The Ditch]

The last thing we need to do is teach guys "The Game" or how to be a "PUA", every time I see someone try to do that it is the most pathetic thing ever, I feel embarrassed for them.

I think a class on dating in school might be lost on the kids, I'm just thinking about the social dance classes we were forced to take up until grade 10 or so, and those never went over well.

[Wookie]

Hmmm.

I'll throw it out there, maybe I'm the only one thinking it?

She's black?

There are very few black chicks that I'm attracted to. I've got a few friends that are black, I've... umm... been there.. a few times...

But, just doesn't do it for me.
So, how many white dudes go for black chicks? Do many? Wiould that ever be a reason of fewer dates? Any black people here that date mostly white guy? Or only Black guys? Equal of each?

Add to that whatever issues she's got... and maybe that's it? Seriously, she could just be a total bitch.