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Old 08-28-2008, 07:54 AM   #141
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I guess what I mean is that the whole mini- big-bang black hole possibility bugs me. But I haven't done enough reading on it to know if that is a serious possibility or not.
They do have a page that addresses those concerns at a high level:

http://public.web.cern.ch/PUBLIC/en/LHC/Safety-en.html

Basically it boils down to they're not doing anything that hasn't already been done in nature a bazillion times already. So expecting some universe ending result is similar to expecting opening a beer to make your house explode. Sure it's possible, the pressure release combined with just the right combination of Brownian motion could cause the fusion of two beer molecules or something, but most people don't worry about that when they grab a beer from the fridge.

The "anything's possible" line of reasoning is faulty because while yes, anything's possible, that's not the important question. The important question is what is probable.

The classic example being finding a hoof print in the dirt. Was it made by a horse? A zebra? Or a unicorn? All are possible, but the question is are they all equally probable.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:40 AM   #142
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Again, maybe it's just me, but I'll take the scientific community's opinion over yours any day.

I know you don't mean that.
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Old 09-02-2008, 08:03 PM   #143
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Basically it boils down to they're not doing anything that hasn't already been done in nature a bazillion times already.
To expand on that thought futher there is a decent article on the LHC today:

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They do have a page that addresses those concerns at a high level:

http://public.web.cern.ch/PUBLIC/en/LHC/Safety-en.html

Basically it boils down to they're not doing anything that hasn't already been done in nature a bazillion times already. So expecting some universe ending result is similar to expecting opening a beer to make your house explode. Sure it's possible, the pressure release combined with just the right combination of Brownian motion could cause the fusion of two beer molecules or something, but most people don't worry about that when they grab a beer from the fridge.

The "anything's possible" line of reasoning is faulty because while yes, anything's possible, that's not the important question. The important question is what is probable.

The classic example being finding a hoof print in the dirt. Was it made by a horse? A zebra? Or a unicorn? All are possible, but the question is are they all equally probable.
Besides, religious intolerance and hatred will consume us all soon enough Gogo Islam!
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Old 09-03-2008, 02:11 PM   #145
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Besides, religious intolerance and hatred will consume us all soon enough Gogo Islam!
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:16 AM   #146
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Set your alarms and kiss the kids goodbye, CERN will be providing a live webcast of the Large Hadron Collider's "First Beam" maiden voyage on Wednesday. Let us know how it goes, we'll be holed-up inside grandpa's bombshelter with our canned turnips and 10th anniversary Heaven's Gate Nikes -- remember, two-knocks if it's safe else we'll assume you're a robot.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:42 AM   #147
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:09 AM   #148
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It's a relief knowing that the canucks will go without a cup for all of eternity. I take this as a minor victory.
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:14 AM   #149
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In that case I'm going to stop recycling.. fata that noise!
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Goodbye, cruel world!

It's no coincidence that the Four Horsemen have also returned and are set to take over the world once again!


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Old 09-08-2008, 01:22 PM   #152
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Is that video supposed to make me feel better about this whole thing?
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:31 PM   #153
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:32 PM   #154
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I, for one, welcome our new Proton Beam overlords.
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Goodbye, cruel world!

It's no coincidence that the Four Horsemen have also returned and are set to take over the world once again!


Yeah James Kirk Lars and that other guy
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Yup. That would be cool,eh? The return of Cliff Burton....
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