CBC - Should it stay or go?

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I doubt it. The CBC is unionized and he's probably going to get a colossal severance package.

If he is on a contract basis, then it would depend upon teh tems in teh contract. Unless those are made public, we won't know if he got full pay, bought out, or nothing.

I think it was a stupid move by Nancy Lee. Brian Williams has shown himself to be a professional, I'm sure he would have done a fine job. I think Nancy Lee needs to be replaced.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by rubecube

The reason they get hacked for it is because, according to the pro-CBCers, they're like the friendly uncle and it's all because they're not privatized.

I'm pro-CBC and I don't think they are like the friendly uncle because they are not privatized. Privatized or not, it's a huge corporation so I don't expect them to be the friendly uncle to every one of their employees.

I like the CBC for some of the content and because I think in Canada the CBC has a role to play. I'm not familiar with their hiring/firing practices.

That being said, I think Nancy Lee should be fired.

[Vulcan]

Nancy Lee, not my favorite person, definitely has an agenda.

http://www.caaws.ca/e/leadership/article.cfm?id=150

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Nancy Lee, not my favorite person, definitely has an agenda.

http://www.caaws.ca/e/leadership/article.cfm?id=150

LOL. Wow, she sure accomplished a lot of those goals in the six years since that article has been put out. I love how they make mention of the the all-women sports channels that failed miserably.

I think it'd be great to see someone like Cassie Campbell on HNIC but has Lee done it? Nope.

[Vulcan]

Yeah, Cassie Campbell would be cool but Lee would probably shoehorn some knownothing with a similar agenda to hers into the show to appeal to the female audience.

[Sharpen 'Em]

With all the talk of "our tax dollars"...I'm curious to know if anyone has any idea how much each of us actually pay a year to fund the CBC. Is it a flat rate for every Canadian who files?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Sharpen 'Em

With all the talk of "our tax dollars"...I'm curious to know if anyone has any idea how much each of us actually pay a year to fund the CBC. Is it a flat rate for every Canadian who files?

I think it comes from "general revenues" or whatever. There is no special fee/flat rate/CBC-dedicated vault for CBC. In 2005 they got a billion dollars. I don't know how many Canadians pay taxes but I'll take a stab and say 20 million so...

[HOOT]

Per person how much do you really think it costs to have it u pand running? If it costs me less than $20 a year than keep it!

[Azure]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Per person how much do you really think it costs to have it u pand running? If it costs me less than $20 a year than keep it!

Well if I'm paying for it, I demand they put on better shows, and increase the amount of hockey games they show.

Whats the chance of that happening? If CBC loses HNIC, they're done.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Azure

Well if I'm paying for it, I demand they put on better shows, and increase the amount of hockey games they show.

Oh you "demand" it, eh? Oooh, look out.

So are you going to stop paying taxes until they start showing super-awesome shows like 24 and CSI and also become a part-time NHL network?

I don't think you quite understand what the CBC is supposed to be. .

[Azure]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Oh you "demand" it, eh? Oooh, look out.

So are you going to stop paying taxes until they start showing super-awesome shows like 24 and CSI and also become a part-time NHL network?

I don't think you quite understand what the CBC is supposed to be. .

I pay for it, surely I have some say, right?

I watch it, surely the consumer has some say, right?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Azure

I pay for it, surely I have some say, right?

I doubt you pay for it more than any other Canadian, but yeah you have a say. So do 30 million other people and very few of them want the CBC to run American-style dramas and hockey all the time.

Do you do anything more with your say than anonymously complain about their programming on a website devoted to the Calgary Flames?

[moon]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

You can turn on your TV, and most of the time, there are 4 or 5 American channels all showing the same thing.

Really?

I watch American TV all the time and have never rarely seen two channels showing the same show and that has only happened during the day when individual stations are showing syndicated shows and the channels came from two different markets.

I would love to know when 4 or 5 channels had were all showing the same thing. Especially since it happens all the time.

and Iguess the CBC does show "different" shows in terms of content. But to me one broing documentary/special is just as bad as another with a different boring subject matter.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I doubt you pay for it more than any other Canadian, but yeah you have a say. So do 30 million other people and very few of them want the CBC to run American-style dramas and hockey all the time.

I'm curious if you can prove that for a fact.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I doubt you pay for it more than any other Canadian, but yeah you have a say. So do 30 million other people and very few of them want the CBC to run American-style dramas and hockey all the time.

Do you do anything more with your say than anonymously complain about their programming on a website devoted to the Calgary Flames?

HNIC in Canada is clearly the most important show to CBC in terms of revenue and ratings. Why not put more hockey on? We all know Canada likes to watch hockey.

I can't say much for the American style dramas, since I can already watch them on satillite.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Snakeeye

I'm curious if you can prove that for a fact.

Well I can't prove anything "for a fact", but I do know that at least 90% of the people in the country won't be watching the Stanley Cup Final, so I think it's safe to say that most people in the country aren't interested in even more hockey on that channel.

Re: American-style dramas -- I don't think I can prove that Canadians don't want another station (especially one run by the government) airing forensics shows and crime dramas based in New York City every night, but it's a reasonable assumption.

[Azure]

Well I can't prove anything "for a fact", but I do know that at least 90% of the people in the country won't be watching the Stanley Cup Final, so I think it's safe to say that most people in the country aren't interested in even more hockey on that channel.

But the Stanley Cup final is pulling better ratings then anything else on CBC. I would watch more hockey, so would you. Therefore you put something on CBC that people will watch.

Re: American-style dramas -- I don't think I can prove that Canadians don't want another station (especially one run by the government) airing forensics shows and crime dramas based in New York City every night, but it's a reasonable assumption.

Base them in Toronto, Vancouver and Calgary. We don't need to base it on American cities. Make it a Canadian crime drama, or a Canadian forensics show.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Azure

But the Stanley Cup final is pulling better ratings then anything else on CBC. I would watch more hockey, so would you. Therefore you put something on CBC that people will watch.

Yeah but the goal isn't to get you and I to watch all the time, or to draw the most viewers. The original goal (made a little sketchy by the inclusion of commercials of course) is to appeal to all Canadians with a wide variety of programming. The mandate, and it might even be a "law" outlined in the Canadian Broadcasting Act, is to air diverse programming that appeals to everyone and not just to Alberta hockey-nerds like you and I.

Come to think of it, I think there has been some amount of griping about the CBC showing too much hockey.

Originally Posted by Azure

Base them in Toronto, Vancouver and Calgary. We don't need to base it on American cities. Make it a Canadian crime drama, or a Canadian forensics show.

I think they do that, but not many people watch it. Some people do though and that's the point of CBC.

[Azure]

Yeah but the goal isn't to get you and I to watch all the time, or to draw the most viewers. The original goal (made a little sketchy by the inclusion of commercials of course) is to appeal to all Canadians with a wide variety of programming. The mandate, and it might even be a "law" outlined in the Canadian Broadcasting Act, is to air diverse programming that appeals to everyone and not just to Alberta hockey-nerds like you and I.

Come to think of it, I think there has been some amount of griping about the CBC showing too much hockey.

There is nothing wrong with having a different Canadian team playing every night on CBC. 3 hours out of their schedule. I'm not talking about a 24/7 hockey station, but I do think CBC should show more hockey then just Saturday night.

I think they do that, but not many people watch it. Some people do though and that's the point of CBC.

If I had my way, I would spend a large amount of money on one particular show, and make it highly appealing and interesting. Draw people to watch CBC. Even though they're a government run organization, there is no reason they can't try to make money.