Polygamy recognized in Canada

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Not every marriage produces a violent relationship, every daughter/father marriage produces a power difference/authority inbalance.

Again I am glad you arent making the rules for the country. Your borderline sicko.

You can keep the personal comments to yourself, unless you are prepared to back them up.

I wasn't talking about father-daughter marriages, I was talking about Father/Son relationships. Not that that actually matters as you have zero evidence to back that statement up because it is complete falsehood. That almost has as much validity as saying "a man has never been raped" or "a woman has never abused a man".

Do you actually think legalizing these types of marriages will suddenly produce more people trying to rape their children or something? Do you think legalizing this type of marriages would actually lead to a massive increase of the behavior?

Do you think people are going to turn gay just because they allow gay marriage or people will now want to have sex with their children (once they are the legal age) because it is legal? The actions you are talking about (forcing someone into marriage) are illegal. You are basically trying to argue that somehow if sons were allowed to marry fathers that dads would try to rape their children. Your argument makes absolutely no sense.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Azure

I realize that. But "why" isn't it legal? Because its wrong?

Technically? Because the legislature/courts haven't made it legal. Just like gay marriage up until very recently.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

You tell us Azure, do you think it is wrong? Do you think it shouldn't be legal?

I can give you all the reasons for the Incest Taboo in many societies, but that isn't really what you are looking for. You are asking a Rhetorical question.

I'll side with Aga here, as long as the child/parent are over the age of consent I don't believe there is anything wrong with the two of them being married.

You have a real problem with avoiding questions. I asked you the same question at least 3 times, earlier in the thread, each time you refused to answer.

Quit trying to turn the conversation around, just because you can't answer the frickin' question.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Technically? Because the legislature/courts haven't made it legal. Just like gay marriage up until very recently.

Do you think they will?

I do. Because after gay marriage was legalized based on the premise of "what is wrong with it" anything will go.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Azure

You have a real problem with avoiding questions. I asked you the same question at least 3 times, earlier in the thread, each time you refused to answer.

Quit trying to turn the conversation around, just because you can't answer the frickin' question.

Answer the question please Azure. Kurt Browning would be proud of the dancing around you are doing to avoid these questions.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Azure

Do you think they will?

I do. Because after gay marriage was legalized based on the premise of "what is wrong with it" anything will go.

As long as they're consenting adults, they can do what they like. Whether or not its a good idea is another debate entirely.

I truly don't see the stampede building for mothers and sons to get married though. I'm not sure its an issue worth worrying about.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Answer the question please Azure. Kurt Browning would be proud of the dancing around you are doing to avoid these questions.

Very funny. I suggest you go back and answer the questions I first asked you, then I "might" consider replying to you.

But of course, if you want to continue turning everything around, go right ahead. You bring nothing to this discussion.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

As long as they're consenting adults, they can do what they like. Whether or not its a good idea is another debate entirely.

I truly don't see the stampede building for mothers and sons to get married though. I'm not sure its an issue worth worrying about.

That should read; "whether it is right or wrong is another debate entirely."

I agree 100%. Thank you.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Azure

Do you think they will?

I do. Because after gay marriage was legalized based on the premise of "what is wrong with it" anything will go.

Was it based on the premise of "what's wrong with it"? I think it was based on the issue of equal rights, which you have no problem with.

The "what's wrong with it" stuff is nothing more than after-the-fact message board fodder and it wasn't the basis of the decision made in the HofC.

If people want to start rallying for the right to marry their dog, dad or Siamese twin, let them fight their own battles. Same-sex marriage has nothing to do with that stuff.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Was it based on the premise of "what's wrong with it"? I think it was based on the issue of equal rights, which you have no problem with.

The "what's wrong with it" stuff is nothing more than after-the-fact message board fodder and it wasn't the basis of the decision made in the HofC.

If people want to start rallying for the right to marry their dog, dad or Siamese twin, let them fight their own battles. Same-sex marriage has nothing to do with that stuff.

Then maybe those people arguing on "this" message board should own up and answer my questions.

Initially the topic started out as, "what is wrong with it." And its all I seem to be hearing these days. Plus, like I have said before, when you legalize gay marriage based on equal rights, and completely forget about "what is wrong with it" then no one in their right mind can disagree with the conditions upon which same-sex marriage is legalized.

What is wrong with it? You know as well as I do that there are people that could come up with that answer, not that we would necessarily agree/disagree with it.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Azure

Very funny. I suggest you go back and answer the questions I first asked you, then I "might" consider replying to you.

But of course, if you want to continue turning everything around, go right ahead. You bring nothing to this discussion.

I already answered the question, go back and look.

Now answer mine. Dance Dance.

[JiriHrdina]

I'm not sure what questions you are looking for answers on Azure. State them here and I will answer each and every one of them as best I can if you will answer the one question being posed to you repeatedly., Deal?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Azure

What is wrong with it? You know as well as I do that there are people that could come up with that answer, not that we would necessarily agree/disagree with it.

Yeah, people could come up with an answer, but not a concrete one.

I said earlier in this thread, or maybe not this one but a similar one, that nobody can come up with an answer, after a year of legal same-sex marriage, how it's been a bad thing for them or anyone they know or have ever met.

I have no doubt that lots of people still would say it's immoral/wrong/gross/dirty/an affront to god/yada/yada/yada but nobody has been able to come up with anything beyond that.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Azure

That should read; "whether it is right or wrong is another debate entirely."

I agree 100%. Thank you.

Not even close. My son should have the right to enter a polygymous marriage. Should he? Hell no. But he should have the right, whether or not its a good idea.

Way to read out of my sentence what you wanted to, you certainly are a shifty character.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Yeah, people could come up with an answer, but not a concrete one.

I said earlier in this thread, or maybe not this one but a similar one, that nobody can come up with an answer, after a year of legal same-sex marriage, how it's been a bad thing for them or anyone they know or have ever met.

I have no doubt that lots of people still would say it's immoral/wrong/gross/dirty/an affront to god/yada/yada/yada but nobody has been able to come up with anything beyond that.

Thats exactly what I'm talking about. Beyond that, I don't think there is another answer.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Not even close. My son should have the right to enter a polygymous marriage. Should he? Hell no. But he should have the right, whether or not its a good idea.

Way to read out of my sentence what you wanted to, you certainly are a shifty character.

I know. Its fun to manipulate other people's posts.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Azure

I know. Its fun to manipulate other people's posts.

So... we're not actually debating here at all, you're just yanking our chains?

Fun.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

You can keep the personal comments to yourself, unless you are prepared to back them up.

I wasn't talking about father-daughter marriages, I was talking about Father/Son relationships. Not that that actually matters as you have zero evidence to back that statement up because it is complete falsehood. That almost has as much validity as saying "a man has never been raped" or "a woman has never abused a man".

Do you actually think legalizing these types of marriages will suddenly produce more people trying to rape their children or something? Do you think legalizing this type of marriages would actually lead to a massive increase of the behavior?

Do you think people are going to turn gay just because they allow gay marriage or people will now want to have sex with their children (once they are the legal age) because it is legal? The actions you are talking about (forcing someone into marriage) are illegal. You are basically trying to argue that somehow if sons were allowed to marry fathers that dads would try to rape their children. Your argument makes absolutely no sense.

So according to you its ok for a father and son to marry but not a father and daughter?

Interesting

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

So according to you its ok for a father and son to marry but not a father and daughter?

Interesting

And the reasons for this have been explained 3 times in this thread.

I assume you read them, and yet still ask the question? Interesting.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

You can keep the personal comments to yourself, unless you are prepared to back them up.

I wasn't talking about father-daughter marriages, I was talking about Father/Son relationships. Not that that actually matters as you have zero evidence to back that statement up because it is complete falsehood. That almost has as much validity as saying "a man has never been raped" or "a woman has never abused a man".

Do you actually think legalizing these types of marriages will suddenly produce more people trying to rape their children or something? Do you think legalizing this type of marriages would actually lead to a massive increase of the behavior?

Do you think people are going to turn gay just because they allow gay marriage or people will now want to have sex with their children (once they are the legal age) because it is legal? The actions you are talking about (forcing someone into marriage) are illegal. You are basically trying to argue that somehow if sons were allowed to marry fathers that dads would try to rape their children. Your argument makes absolutely no sense.

Also, I am not sure why you keep bring gay's into this. This thread is about polygamy. Thats what I have been discussing. If you think I have been talking about not allowing gays to marry, maybe you should re-read my posts.

The only time I talked about gay marriage is when I said that they do not fit the definition of marriage. If they want to marry and call it something else such as gay marriage fine, whatever, all the power to them, it really doesnt effect me. And quite frankly keeping it the same as just marriage really doesnt bother me personally, but I can definately see why people who are strongly against calling gay marriage the same as marriage against it.