The Flames' handling/plan for Zayne Parekh..

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Did you see the quote a few days ago from one of the prospects (Wyttenbach maybe?) who said (paraphrasing): "Huska is very demanding that you play the right way defensively, but he let's you be creative offensively"? And then he added something he's a great coach, or whatever.

This was an actual player who was describing his experience with Huska. To me, that carries a little more weight than the handful of posters who are convinced (for no valid reason that they can demonstrate) that Huska refuses to let people be creative offensively.

I still think you should make that quote your sig! If you don't do that, I may add it to mine.

[Enoch Root]

do you remember what thread it was in?

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I wonder if he just needed extra time to rehab the muscles, which are pretty badly manhandled in a knee operation. I've never had surgery on my knees, but I have had other knee injuries, and it took me considerable time to get back to normal even after the joint itself was healed.

Operation? I thought neither injury last year required surgery. Am I misremembering?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Operation? I thought neither injury last year required surgery. Am I misremembering?

I had the idea there was some kind of surgery, but if so, I got it from other posters here on CP and we could all easily be out to lunch.

The point remains that in a knee injury, the muscles likely take at least as bad a beating as the joint itself.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

do you remember what thread it was in?

Search for Wyttenbach on page 2 of the Fire On Ice board and you should find it. Or here is a link to the actual article SureLoss quoted:

https://dailyhive.com/calgary/calgar...reshman-season

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I had the idea there was some kind of surgery, but if so, I got it from other posters here on CP and we could all easily be out to lunch.

The point remains that in a knee injury, the muscles likely take at least as bad a beating as the joint itself.

At a minimum, it may have restricted his off-season conditioning. At least, I'm hoping that's why he is considerably slower this year.

[PepsiFree]

I think this is kind of an interesting comparison.

Player 1
11 GP, 0G, 1A, CF% rel 2.3, ATOI 14:46
SOG 11, BLK 5, HIT 5, TK 3, GV 17
Team record in games played: 2-9

Player 2
15 GP, 0G, 1A, CF% rel 4.4, ATOI 13:45
SOG 15, BLK 5, HIT 8, TK 0, GV 10
Team record in games played: 8-7

Not a huge difference between the two. But the conversation and consternation around one seems way, way higher than the other. Some (the loud minority) think Player 1, Parekh, should be in the AHL but think even the OHL would have been better. But I don’t see much in the way of people calling for Player 2, Brzu, to get sent down to the AHL.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Search for Wyttenbach on page 2 of the Fire On Ice board and you should find it. Or here is a link to the actual article SureLoss quoted:

https://dailyhive.com/calgary/calgar...reshman-season

Out of thanks, but thank you

[curves2000]

My memory may be foggy a bit but last year they burned a year off his deal, ok, but is that 100% required? Hindsight a whatever move that probably didn't need to happen.

This year he makes the team and plays just ok but has a ton of pressure on him from coaching, staff, management and fans. That is not easy when you are not playing well but there seems to have been a somewhat strange narrative from the team. "Jr is not where he should be right now" type mentality. Some may agree but what ended up happening? He goes to a Jr tournament and hasn't really played this much this year and can't really play in the AHL so what is logical and pragmatic? I dunno, Jr ??

I don't think there was anything wrong with not burning a year on the deal, have him in Jr this year, next year in the AHL and called up if and when ready for more work. Learn the man's game, build up confidence, avoid avoidable injuries and get stronger.

There is zero rush for any of this and the Flames track record isn't great. They need to be doing things smarter, cleaner and more logical in order to turn what little hope they have around. Teams like Vegas can gamble and gobble up talent, we can't.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by zukes

The conditioning stint is a one-time thing. They aren't allowed to use that again this season on Parekh.

If he is scratched for 5 in a row again can he go down again?

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

Put him in the pressbox for a couple games, Eat half a dozen pocket dogs a game to add some lbs and come back beefier and stronger.

You are assuming there is any beef product at all in pocket dawgs.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think this is kind of an interesting comparison.

Player 1
11 GP, 0G, 1A, CF% rel 2.3, ATOI 14:46
SOG 11, BLK 5, HIT 5, TK 3, GV 17
Team record in games played: 2-9

Player 2
15 GP, 0G, 1A, CF% rel 4.4, ATOI 13:45
SOG 15, BLK 5, HIT 8, TK 0, GV 10
Team record in games played: 8-7

Not a huge difference between the two. But the conversation and consternation around one seems way, way higher than the other. Some (the loud minority) think Player 1, Parekh, should be in the AHL but think even the OHL would have been better. But I don’t see much in the way of people calling for Player 2, Brzu, to get sent down to the AHL.

I also don't see anyone complaining that they are misusing Brz or treating him unfairly by easing him into the NHL.

Besides, a full minute more of ice-time is pretty substantial, especially when you look at the amount of PP time Parekh received in comparison.

Parekh - 2:26 PP TOI/GP
Brz - 0:41 PP TOI/GP

I doubt anyone will be upset or angry when Brz is eventually sent back down. He is an inury replacement and was next up on the depth chart. Heck, when Parekh is ready, it's probably him who gets sent back down.

I just don't get the uproar about easing Parekh in. He came in at 19 and it's his first pro season. I don't see the point of forcing our most valuable prospect to sink or swim at that age. I am sure the plan all long was to get Parekh gradually used to the NHL pace and by the end of the season, he would be playing a bigger role. Obviously the injury derailed that and after missing so much time, they need to reset for now. People are treating a conditioning stint like it's a punishment or something.

It's this type of crazy Canadian market overreacting that drives some players crazy. Making mountains out of mole hills.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I still think you should make that quote your sig! If you don't do that, I may add it to mine.

I know it means nothing but Ryan is a super nice dude, his wife is super cool and his kid too. He is the absolute epitome of not arrogant in the least. Great guy and i cringe when people make up stuff with little evidence. You are the reason players dont want to play here. He will have a long career.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by fotze2

. You are the reason players dont want to play here. He will have a long career.

Just to be clear, that was aimed at the people who are hating on Huska? Not at me personally, I hope. I think Huska is a very good coach for a developing team.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by edslunch

I'm starting to get Bennett and Sven vibes from this situation.

I've been known to have some hot takes, but this is way, way out there.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Just to be clear, that was aimed at the people who are hating on Huska? Not at me personally, I hope. I think Huska is a very good coach for a developing team.

No i knew what you meant. I was talking generally. All good.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by edslunch

I'm starting to get Bennett and Sven vibes from this situation.

It's been 11 games, sir.

[Snuffleupagus]

I doubt I'm alone in this universe but since I have a big mouth I'll say it where others wont, I don't trust Huska or his system in allowing highly talented players to play to their strengths, anyone with a brain can already see Gridin skating on eggshells afraid to make a mistake instead of using his natural talent to make plays.

The more talented to Flames get the more reason to fire Huska to the moon.

[UKflames]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

I doubt I'm alone in this universe but since I have a big mouth I'll say it where others wont, I don't trust Huska or his system in allowing highly talented players to play to their strengths, anyone with a brain can already see Gridin skating on eggshells afraid to make a mistake instead of using his natural talent to make plays.

The more talented to Flames get the more reason to fire Huska to the moon.

There are some crazy statements on CP, but this is right up there. In no way has Gridin looked like he was being held back from making plays. Just ridiculous hate towards Huska clouding your view of a young player starting out in the NHL.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

I doubt I'm alone in this universe but since I have a big mouth I'll say it where others wont, I don't trust Huska or his system in allowing highly talented players to play to their strengths, anyone with a brain can already see Gridin skating on eggshells afraid to make a mistake instead of using his natural talent to make plays.

Ethan Wyttenbach disagrees with you very strongly, as you can see from my current sig. I'll take his word above yours, since he is a skilled hockey player who has been coached by Huska, and you are not.