12-04-2025, 09:50 AM
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#141
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damn onions
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Originally Posted by Incogneto
winning the bid would have added federal money to the budget.
Not voting for the Olympics was one of the greatest mistakes this city has made in the past 35 years.
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Nah. I dunno if you’ve noticed or followed along but the city is already struggling mightily with budget, cuts, trying to keep a lid on tax increases, etc. boondoggle corruption parties probably wouldn’t help.
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12-04-2025, 10:11 AM
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#142
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Nah. I dunno if you’ve noticed or followed along but the city is already struggling mightily with budget, cuts, trying to keep a lid on tax increases, etc. boondoggle corruption parties probably wouldn’t help.
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The amount that the City is now spending on the new rink was essentially the same amount they were committed to spend to host the entire Olympics.
Calgary could have had:
-New Arena
-New Fieldhouse
-Renovated McMahon, Oval, Winsport
-New residential development (athletes village)
-new C-train line
-significant bump in short and long-term tourist $$$
Most of the funding for this was set to come from the Feds and the Province.
Instead, for the same budget, Calgary gets the arena and now needs to fund the remaining infrastructure out of its own budget.
Another example of why these decisions should be made by experts, and not the general population who gets their insight from social media.
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12-04-2025, 10:13 AM
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#143
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Location: Toronto, Ontario
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It's still pretty mind blowing that somehow the rink dimensions were adjusted and approved without it leaking. From a project standpoint you'd think that the 101 would be the size of the rink has to be x, then everything else is adjusted accordingly. It sounds pretty insignificant but it's weird that it flew under the radar. Once again the IIHF and the IOC look like idiots who approve things behind the scenes just to get it done. I think that's what's most annoying. You'd think the NHL would be consulted as a main stakeholder.
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12-04-2025, 10:24 AM
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#144
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by bluejays
It's still pretty mind blowing that somehow the rink dimensions were adjusted and approved without it leaking. From a project standpoint you'd think that the 101 would be the size of the rink has to be x, then everything else is adjusted accordingly. It sounds pretty insignificant but it's weird that it flew under the radar. Once again the IIHF and the IOC look like idiots who approve things behind the scenes just to get it done. I think that's what's most annoying. You'd think the NHL would be consulted as a main stakeholder.
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I believe the dimensions are within the parameters allowed by the IIHF.
Under IIHF rules, the standard rink is 60m long, which is 196.85 feet. This is the reported size of the rink for the Olympics, so I'm not really sure why this was even brought up.
The IIHF rules also specify the width of the rink to be between 26 and 30 metres, and the Olympic rink is set to be 26.
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12-04-2025, 10:34 AM
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#145
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Franchise Player
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To be fair to the Italians, they only had about 7 years of lead time to build the thing.
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12-04-2025, 10:59 AM
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#146
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damn onions
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkhouser
The amount that the City is now spending on the new rink was essentially the same amount they were committed to spend to host the entire Olympics.
Calgary could have had:
-New Arena
-New Fieldhouse
-Renovated McMahon, Oval, Winsport
-New residential development (athletes village)
-new C-train line
-significant bump in short and long-term tourist $$$
Most of the funding for this was set to come from the Feds and the Province.
Instead, for the same budget, Calgary gets the arena and now needs to fund the remaining infrastructure out of its own budget.
Another example of why these decisions should be made by experts, and not the general population who gets their insight from social media.
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Okay and if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.
It’s the Winter Olympics, but you think Calgary could squeeze in the facilities for the 40 other sports within the new rink budget?
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12-04-2025, 11:11 AM
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#147
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Okay and if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.
It’s the Winter Olympics, but you think Calgary could squeeze in the facilities for the 40 other sports within the new rink budget?
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No, but Calgary was tagged to spend much less.
The Olympic budget was over 5 billion dollars, with 370 million coming from Calgary and the Province, Federal government, and private funding contributing the vast majority. Currently, Calgary is set to fund the arena to the tune of over 500 million dollars.
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12-04-2025, 11:18 AM
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#148
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
No, but Calgary was tagged to spend much less.
The Olympic budget was over 5 billion dollars, with 370 million coming from Calgary and the Province, Federal government, and private funding contributing the vast majority. Currently, Calgary is set to fund the arena to the tune of over 500 million dollars.
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What they should do for the Olympics is ensure that you are getting a second Olympics in 8 or 12 years. This allows for minimal upgrades for the facilities that have been built. Gives the city two games in which to pay off their investment in the infrastructure that needed to be built.
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12-04-2025, 12:02 PM
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#149
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damn onions
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
No, but Calgary was tagged to spend much less.
The Olympic budget was over 5 billion dollars, with 370 million coming from Calgary and the Province, Federal government, and private funding contributing the vast majority. Currently, Calgary is set to fund the arena to the tune of over 500 million dollars.
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But then after the inevitable overruns?
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12-04-2025, 12:12 PM
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#150
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Location: still in edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
No, but Calgary was tagged to spend much less.
The Olympic budget was over 5 billion dollars, with 370 million coming from Calgary and the Province, Federal government, and private funding contributing the vast majority. Currently, Calgary is set to fund the arena to the tune of over 500 million dollars.
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2018 (or whatever) dollars vs 2024 dollars has to be factored in too.
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12-04-2025, 12:14 PM
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#151
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
But then after the inevitable overruns?
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...and this was the problem from the very beginning with the Olympic vote being a referendum.
There is nothing that would appease the majority of the population with regard to the olympics. The answer was always "it costs too much". If I asked individuals what a reasonable price would be for the olympics, nobody could ever tell me. I assume that answer was $1.
Silly. Calgary needed these olympics in the worst way. The funding from the feds isnt something that will ever come back.
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12-04-2025, 12:51 PM
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#152
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#1 Goaltender
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Ya the arguments against the arena were the same as the arguments against the olympics and yet one would've had a much bigger impact both short and long term for Calgary facilities. And yes there may not be a profit like there continues to be from COP, but having the NHLers back for the first time in years would've been electric
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12-04-2025, 12:55 PM
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#153
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Originally Posted by henriksedin33
Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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12-04-2025, 02:16 PM
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#154
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
But then after the inevitable overruns?
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Man, you're throwing out all of the old, tired scare tactic platitudes. Corruption!!!! Overruns!!!!
Current facility overruns are the responsibility of the city and province. All expenses right now are being paid by the city and the province. The Olympics would have brought more funding sources to the party - federal and corporate.
If you think that just our own money for Calgary facilities is better than a combination of ours and other people's money for those same facilities, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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12-05-2025, 09:13 AM
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#155
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
I'm concerned about the size of the playing surface. It seems to me that with hockey being a "game of inches" a few less feet of room could lead to injuries from players not expecting the boards to be where they are etc.
Like it's one thing when you go from NHL to International, since that's more space to work with... but less space is a different story. Although, I suppose international teams deal with it ok when they come over here to play events on NHL rinks, so maybe it's a non-issue.
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The Swedish series a couple weeks ago was playing on this size of rink and it was a non issue.
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12-05-2025, 09:23 AM
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#156
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electric boogaloo
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Originally Posted by Tacoman
Man, you're throwing out all of the old, tired scare tactic platitudes. Corruption!!!! Overruns!!!!
Current facility overruns are the responsibility of the city and province. All expenses right now are being paid by the city and the province. The Olympics would have brought more funding sources to the party - federal and corporate.
If you think that just our own money for Calgary facilities is better than a combination of ours and other people's money for those same facilities, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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Is it a scare tactic if its almost 100% what always happens.
I just wanted the Olympics because tax money would be pissed away on something else anyway, might as well piss it away on something that could be neat.
Do we know that actual pre-construction budget of the new dome? Just so we know before the goalposts start being moved in the next year or so?
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12-05-2025, 10:05 AM
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#157
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by HOOT
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Who on earth is Dr. Grizzo?
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