[PGT] Oilers 3 Flames 2 in OT

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Minnesota has a tough sked this week. At NJ/NYR/NYI and vs Dallas. That's no cake walk. Maybe they go 2-2 there. Not impossible.

If(obviously a big if) the Flames take care of their business, there could be an opening this week.

I think it's possible they go 1-3 or 0-4. That's a tough set of games and on the road.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

No, I didn't ignore the 3 games in hand. The Blues and Wild are the next level team of what the Flames need to be. The talent on both teams are a step above the Flames. The team needed to make hay earlier in the year to not allow them to get them in this situation. Just being a realistic. A team that struggles to score + the remaining schedule vs Yhey obviously more talented offensive teams and a greatly easier schedule.

The wild are pretty meh without kaprisov

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Really? Flames only gave up five shots in 15 minutes with that line on the ice at evens. I thought they were really strong in transition.

That first Oiler goal Pospisil was just floating near the blue line zero effort and Sharangovich with a weak effort on the boards.

[browna]

St Louis lays a couple eggs or Minnesota one extra egg this week and Flames are back in control of their own playoff destiny.

They just came off 4 one goal wins before Thursday against decent teams, sure they can do it again especially with some of the upcoming opponents after COL.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I don't think there is any point to throwing in the towel now. 6 points away from 10th with too few games remaining. They are almost assuredly going to end up in no-man's land. It sucks, but it is what it is. I would rather the Flames continue to battle it out and at least hand over Montreal the very worst pick possible with whatever games they have.

I felt after their points percentage dropped out of the top 8 in the conference, playoffs became unlikely, especially given the heater that the Blues were on, and how unlikely the Wild would have to drop in order for the Flames to catch them. This loss puts the Flames further back, and they have Colorado next. Sucks for the 'worst case scenario' to have such a high chance of happening now, but it is what it is. No point in throwing in the towel at this point.

Vladar has been just as good as Wolf down the stretch. They would need to call up Ignatjew or someone, sit Weegar, Andersson, Kadri and Huberdeau, and outright embarrass themselves with a tank job to get into that bottom 10.

Just play out the season. Play hard, score some goals, entertain us. That's how I see it anyway.

Agreed there's no path to a top 10 pick now. The only option now is to try to win every game. They don't have the talent to go the 9-1 or 8-2 that it would require to make it in. So mushy middle is the inevitable result.

We accept that as fact. But we don't have to be happy about it.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

The wild are pretty meh without kaprisov

Still much better than the Flames. They and the Blues are a few levels above us talent wise.

I don't see it happening. We aren't beating the Avalanche.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

I think it's possible they go 1-3 or 0-4. That's a tough set of games and on the road.

That's what I don't get about people who are saying it's over.

It's just clearly not.

Can Calgary string back to back performances in COL and Utah? Tough, but maybe. Not unheard of.

If Minny loses in Jersey and NYR(also not unheard of), then it's 3 points back with 2 in hand.

It's very tough. 100%, but it's clearly not over. They just need help now.

[Manhattanboy]

All in all it’s been a fun year.

Flames have over achieved. They are playing pretty good hockey.

But I don’t see us in the playoffs for a very long time.

The teams below us will continue their upward trajectory while I think we will stay mired in mediocrity.

Sucks.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

That's what I don't get about people who are saying it's over.

It's just clearly not.

Can Calgary string back to back performances in COL and Utah? Tough, but maybe. Not unheard of.

If Minny loses in Jersey and NYR(also not unheard of), then it's 3 points back with 2 in hand.

It's very tough. 100%, but it's clearly not over. They just need help now.

The odds are way longer than you're making them out to be. A team with elite talent could maybe win the games required, but this team sorely lacks talent (aside from goaltending).

Tell you what, if the Flames make these playoffs, I'll donate $100 to a charity of CP owner's choosing.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Pathetic.

[dino7c]

Its unlikely the Flames win all 3 games in hand...its also VERY unlikely they lose all 3 in regulation.

7 point deficit is misleading. Based on their record they are likely to add 3-4 points.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

The odds are way longer than you're making them out to be. A team with elite talent could maybe win the games required, but this team sorely lacks talent (aside from goaltending).

Tell you what, if the Flames make these playoffs, I'll donate $100 to a charity of CP owner's choosing.

The Wild have scored 12 more goals than the Flames and have played 2 more games. Their best talent is injured. Nobody is saying its better than 50% but its certainly still possible

[Winnie]

Rebuilding and expected to finish in the basement, yet hanging in the playoff race at this point in the season. Cup favorite Oilers a few points ahead and barely able to hold us off.

[dino7c]

Flames gained a point on the Wild today without giving up a game in hand...gained

[agulati]

Wild have Devils, Rangers, Islanders, stars, Sharks, Flames, Canucks, and Ducks remaining. They potentially could go 3-4-1 in that schedule.

That would require Flames to go 7-2-1 in their remaining ten games. Tough task. Not impossible, but a very tough task. We still have 2 games against Vegas, 1 game against Colorado and 1 game against the Kings out of our remaining games. Need to at least get points in 2 of those games and win out the remaining.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The Ducks are not a pushover either. They have started to play well now.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

When they sat on their 1 goal lead and didn't press on that PP I knew exactly what was coming. Went and did other stuff.

Edmonton decaying and falling apart in the next couple years will be nice.

Held up by two players who can change games with two or three chances. Frankly it's stupid. But even they aren't spring chickens any more, and that organizations outlook beyond what life these two now oft injured players have left in them is bleak.

Even their building is a decade old now. Soon they'll be Buffalo west staring down the highway at a nicer facility with an up and coming team chock full of young talent.

We're essentially in the twilight of the squandered mcdavid years, with no cups to show for having all world talent dropped on their laps.

Congrats on barely edging out a rebuilding team, cup faves.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The Wild have scored 12 more goals than the Flames and have played 2 more games. Their best talent is injured. Nobody is saying its better than 50% but its certainly still possible

Ya that 12 goals more is at minimum a 6 game advantage and often more. The Flames score 2 or less more often than not with a very few exceptions.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames gained a point on the Wild today without giving up a game in hand...gained

Yet only hold 2 games in hand on them and a 7 point deficit. If we are worried about the blues with 7 points up and 3 games up on them Lord have mercy.

[Matty81]

Tough loss... hated both the Oilers last two goals. Frost is soft on that puck in the neutral zone on the tying goal, doesn't sacrifice to move it forward, it gets turned around quickly and then Wolf for me let in a softie from a bad angle, and then in OT Kadri takes a low percentage shot and then bounces off the back of Draisaitl and falls down leading to the 3 on 2 and the open slot in the shot.

It's too bad because otherwise it was such a tight well played game by the flames and they didn't let Perry's stupidity throw them off. But the reality is we just don't have the offensive finishers to get the goals to get into the playoffs I don't think. It's a year where we are going to draft in the 20s and miss and not really have a lot to show for it either. Hopefully something gives next year, feels like ownership and mgmt got lured in by a mirage at the deadline and maybe should have sold high on Rasmus and a couple others at this point