10-24-2024, 08:50 PM
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#141
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
I'm not a rules expert, but if a goalie has their mask knocked off it should be blown dead. For safety reasons.
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I agree, it should. But didn't that already happen against the Flames this season? Season opener I believe?
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10-24-2024, 08:51 PM
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#142
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Party Elephant
It's almost what happened in game 1 vs Vancouver when Vladar's mask came off. The only difference is they blew the whistle this time.
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Exactly because the Canucks had control and therefore there was a scoring chance. You can't call it differently game by game, NHL officiating is bush league
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10-24-2024, 08:51 PM
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#143
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#1 Goaltender
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Mistake by the official to whistle the play dead when there was an imminent scoring threat. Weegar was sending him a message that he made a mistake that cost the Flames a probable goal, and the official didn’t like it.
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10-24-2024, 08:52 PM
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#144
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
I agree, it should. But didn't that already happen against the Flames this season? Season opener I believe?
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Refs got it wrong the first time and right this time.
I am all for players safety and that is a dangerous play.
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10-24-2024, 08:52 PM
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#145
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Franchise Player
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Not to mention it was the Canes player who buried the Flames player into his own goalie
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10-24-2024, 08:53 PM
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#146
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
Refs got it wrong the first time and right this time.
I am all for players safety and that is a dangerous play.
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Not according to the rules...maybe you dont agree with the rules but its not supposed to be blown that quickly
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10-24-2024, 08:54 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
Refs got it wrong the first time and right this time.
I am all for players safety and that is a dangerous play.
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Wrong, you have it backwards.
When a goaltender loses their helmet, facial protector, blocker or trapper, or skate blade, the play will be stopped immediately, unless there is an imminent scoring chance that does not pose a safety risk to the goaltender.
The goalie is out of position and there is a wide open net. The Flames had possession, the whistle should not have gone and Weegar should have had a goal there.
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10-24-2024, 08:54 PM
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#148
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Not to mention it was the Canes player who buried the Flames player into his own goalie
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Doesn't matter. Once the mask is off the play needs to die. I don't care how the rules are written, it needs to be changed to that.
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10-24-2024, 08:55 PM
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#149
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MolsonInBothHands
There was no imminent scoring threat, so whistle appears legit to me. Weegar doesn't have puck yet when whistle is heard.
No problem with that penalty.
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Watch the replay. It was played beck to the slot, right between the faceoff circle.
Edit: it was played to the edge of the faceoff circle. Still an imminent scoring chance IMO.
Last edited by Macindoc; 10-24-2024 at 09:00 PM.
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10-24-2024, 08:55 PM
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#150
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Doesn't matter. Once the mask is off the play needs to die. I don't care how the rules are written, it needs to be changed to that.
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Lol cant change the rules mid game though...there are lots of rules I dont like
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10-24-2024, 08:55 PM
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#151
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Doesn't matter. Once the mask is off the play needs to die. I don't care how the rules are written, it needs to be changed to that.
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I agree but currently that is not how it is written. That is a blown call by the officials
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10-24-2024, 08:56 PM
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#152
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Not according to the rules...maybe you dont agree with the rules but its not supposed to be blown that quickly
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It's blown that quickly because it is a non Calgary based team.
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10-24-2024, 08:57 PM
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#153
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
It's blown that quickly because it is a non Calgary based team.
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It is blown that fast because nobody understands the rules, especially the officials. Even the war room doesn't know the rules. It's the worst league in pro sports for rule clarity.
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10-24-2024, 08:59 PM
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#154
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
It is blown that fast because nobody understands the rules, especially the officials. Even the war room doesn't know the rules. It's the worst league in pro sports for rule clarity.
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That too.
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10-24-2024, 08:59 PM
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#155
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Doesn't matter. Once the mask is off the play needs to die. I don't care how the rules are written, it needs to be changed to that.
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The refs should allow kicked in goals too. Don’t care how the rules are written, refs need to allow those goals.
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10-24-2024, 09:03 PM
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#156
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Franchise Player
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Its just frustrating when the letter of the law hurt us game 1 and then they call it wrong the other way. Canes also caused the mask to come off.
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10-24-2024, 09:04 PM
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#157
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
The refs should allow kicked in goals too. Don’t care how the rules are written, refs need to allow those goals.
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Mostly because it's actually not easy to do.
I'd consider it skillful but also adept use of angles when it's a redirect.
Trying to determine a kicking motion leads to too much grey area. Allow it altogether and the problems go away.
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10-24-2024, 09:05 PM
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#158
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Franchise Player
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C'mon, Flames!
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10-24-2024, 09:08 PM
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#159
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#1 Goaltender
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Goaltender out of position, defenders out of position, player with unopposed possession at the inner top of the circle. Puck was in the net within 2 or 3 seconds of when the whistle was mistakenly blown. Scoring chances don’t get much more imminent than that.
Having said that, dumb move by Weegar. Officials don’t like to be shown up, and they have the ability to punish those who do. And no, I don’t but that he didn’t hear the whistle.
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10-24-2024, 09:10 PM
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#160
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#1 Goaltender
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Weegar canned, no call.
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