[Signing] Lindholm (7yrs, $7.75 mil AAV) and Zadorov (6x$5M) to Bruins

[TheScorpion]

30 games in ....

These are two of the worst deals in the entire league.

Lindholm has 3 goals and 10 assists. Would you trade Huberdeau for him? I wouldn't.

Yikes.

[greyshep]

I drafted him in the late rounds in my fantasy hockey pool, thought I was getting a potential steal with him lining up with Pastrnak. Ugh was that ever wrong.

This guy is trash.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

The Gaudreau effect was real.

[Party Elephant]

Conroy's handling of Lindholm has aged pretty well even with Kuzmenko turning into a pumpkin.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

Conroy's handling of Lindholm has aged pretty well even with Kuzmenko turning into a pumpkin.

Best piece in all that exchange was Brz and the futures.

Hopefully Kuzmenko can make himself tradable to add to that.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

30 games in ....

These are two of the worst deals in the entire league.

Lindholm has 3 goals and 10 assists. Would you trade Huberdeau for him? I wouldn't.

Yikes.

I would still easily rather have Lindholm at that salary than Huberdeau at his. At the very least, Lindholm's contract is less buyout proof, especially in the later years. Both of them are probably equally as disappointing production-wise but Huberdeau's cap hit is 35% higher and the bonus structure is insane.

If I had to gamble on which player has a better chance to return closer to their career in the next couple of seasons, I would bet on Lindholm over Huberdeau (not that I would necessarily bet on either, but if I had to pick one).

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I would still easily rather have Lindholm at that salary than Huberdeau at his. At the very least, Lindholm's contract is less buyout proof, especially in the later years. Both of them are probably equally as disappointing production-wise but Huberdeau's cap hit is 35% higher and the bonus structure is insane.

If I had to gamble on which player has a better chance to return closer to their career in the next couple of seasons, I would bet on Lindholm over Huberdeau (not that I would necessarily bet on either, but if I had to pick one).

The biggest issue with Lindholm is his compete level. There’s nights where he is totally disengaged and doesn’t look like he cares. He basically gave up at the end of his tenure here. Huberdeau still competes for the most part and has tried to evolve his game. Both contracts are bad as far as value is concerned.

[CliffFletcher]

It really is strange to see a player who was known for his engine just check out mid-way though his career. Did Lindholm stop enjoying the game? Lose his motivation once the big money rolled in? Whatever it is, he’s a shadow of the player he used to be.

[Strange Brew]

Yeah I would still prefer Lindholm. But as time goes on there will be other players with bad contracts comparable to what Huberdeau will have remaining, and it could open up a trade market for him.

[Sandman]

Brzustewicz is starting to find his way in the pros, with 7 points in the last 6 games, including a goal and an assist tonight. Thanks again, Vancouver!

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Brzustewicz is starting to find his way in the pros, with 7 points in the last 6 games, including a goal and an assist tonight. Thanks again, Vancouver!

Plus people forget how young he is (just turned 20), watching him he reminds me of a young Andersson. his offensive skills should start to shine over the next few months.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It really is strange to see a player who was known for his engine just check out mid-way though his career. Did Lindholm stop enjoying the game? Lose his motivation once the big money rolled in? Whatever it is, he’s a shadow of the player he used to be.

Sometimes compete level is just losing the step and not being able to get to the same areas

Guy just turned 30. Not ancient but lots of players see large falloffs between 26 and 30

He looks like he doesn't try, but I think he's just a player that can't get to where he needs to be fast enough anymore.

Looking like a horrible contract as this point and Pasta having a very down season

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I would still easily rather have Lindholm at that salary than Huberdeau at his. At the very least, Lindholm's contract is less buyout proof, especially in the later years. Both of them are probably equally as disappointing production-wise but Huberdeau's cap hit is 35% higher and the bonus structure is insane.

If I had to gamble on which player has a better chance to return closer to their career in the next couple of seasons, I would bet on Lindholm over Huberdeau (not that I would necessarily bet on either, but if I had to pick one).

I agree on pure terms of a defensive center that can win face offs,

But what about a pouty whiney awful to have in the room while developing the young kids coming up? A negative person can create a shroud all over the entire work place.

I’ll take the overpaid star who is continuing to work his but off and even changing his game to adapt rather than whatever the hell Lindholm thought he was on that line.

No wonder Carolina cut ties quickly with him and Hanifin.

We would have been better off with Dougie and no Neal/Brower

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

30 games in ....

These are two of the worst deals in the entire league.

Lindholm has 3 goals and 10 assists. Would you trade Huberdeau for him? I wouldn't.

Yikes.

Zadorov is actually having a decent season.

Lindholm/Huberdeau?

Do I have to choose? I would take a cheaper contract that is potentially a buyout candidate.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

Conroy's handling of Lindholm has aged pretty well even with Kuzmenko turning into a pumpkin.

Well the Flames reportedly offered him in the range of $9 million a season so it's more like a bullet dodged. Could you imagine if he signed that deal? Free agency more than not is just bad business unless the player in question is proven elite over their career and even that has risk involved. For the most part it's best to just stay away from offering long term deals to players at or nearing 30.

[Jiggy]

Pouty pants Lindholm can stay in Boston

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Brzustewicz is starting to find his way in the pros, with 7 points in the last 6 games, including a goal and an assist tonight. Thanks again, Vancouver!

I know Canucks fans are still miffed at that trade because my biggest Canucks' homer buddy randomly texted me that Brzustewicz is busting, Kuzmenko sucks, and Gridin is behind a 4th round pick in scoring (still wish the Flames grabbed Poirier).

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well the Flames reportedly offered him in the range of $9 million a season so it's more like a bullet dodged. Could you imagine if he signed that deal? Free agency more than not is just bad business unless the player in question is proven elite over their career and even that has risk involved. For the most part it's best to just stay away from offering long term deals to players at or nearing 30.

Nitpicking but Freidman said he thought it would take the Flames 9 million to re-sign Lindholm but the Flames never offered that and it was closer to the Scheifele deal. My guess is we'd be anchored with a Lindholm contract if the Flames offered 9x8.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well the Flames reportedly offered him in the range of $9 million a season so it's more like a bullet dodged. Could you imagine if he signed that deal? Free agency more than not is just bad business unless the player in question is proven elite over their career and even that has risk involved. For the most part it's best to just stay away from offering long term deals to players at or nearing 30.

I’m not sure I believe the rumoured offers or desire to keep these players was anything more than posturing at this point.

It’s a little hard to believe that Conroy just so happened to want to re-sign every guy he’s traded, but at always less than what they were willing to accept, yet more than what they ended up getting, and no Flames offer was made during free agency.

Lindholm, Hanifin, Tanev, Markstrom, and now Andersson. Conroy’s a bit of a gamer I think, always talking calls and waiting for the right offer, but “likes every guy” and is more than willing to “keep them long term,” so… you know, if you want ‘em, pony up.

[Bonded]

The only one I think Conroy wanted to re-sign was Hanifin