What is Daniil Miromanov?

[DeluxeMoustache]

I will add that he only played 29 total games over 3 seasons with Vegas.

He played 4 there last year then 20 with the Flames, on a team with no pressure whatsoever. Add another 17 this year

Conroy did tell us when he picked him up what he liked about him, in terms of what he may bring. But he was never coming in fully baked

He is very much learning the NHL game and developing, and looking more confident as time goes on

I find his development promising, another feather in Conroy’s cap

[Goriders]

Conman looks to have made some pretty good pickups with respect to young dmen.

Goalies are solid.

Forwards need a bit of work now.

[Goriders]

Resurrecting this thread. Has this question been answered now? Seems like he has worked his way out of the lineup.

Is he in Huska’s doghouse? He seems to have a penchant for being out of position. It seems like he might be on the outs like Kuzmenko. We have plenty of young defenseman that look like they are on the verge of being ready to play in the NHL.

My guess is sooner or later, if not now, that Miromanov will get bumped from the roster.

Anybody else have thoughts on Miromanov? He’s probably the hardest guy to figure out.

[Ped]

Flames need to find a way to get the rest of the blueline to help out offensively a little more. Miromanov, Bean, Pachal, Barrie, and Hanley combined have less points than either Andersson or Weegar, and that's with Andersson slumping and Weegar pointless in 6.

[dustygoon]

I don't really care too much about points from the depth blueliners. But i do think it is important for the whole crew to be part of getting the puck out of our end as quickly as possible....fast retrieval, winning board battles, hitting to separate and getting puck out and up the ice. I like Pachal in this area. I can't remember what Barrie does! Bean doesn't seem great at winning physical battles, but gets the puck out alright. Miromanov seems to be the one that ends up getting bogged down in the corners.

Is there a way to track amount of time pucks are in our D zone when a player is on the ice? Like quickest to get puck out of our zone once it's dumped in?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

What is Miromanov? A healthy scratch apparently.

I think what landed him in the doghouse is his inability to make simple plays to clear the zone. In the last game IIRC, he had 3 chances to just chip a puck out past a forechecker, and he kept trying to carry it out or make a pass to someone. He got lucky as the puck landed on his stick time and again, but he refused to just chip it out. I think it led to either a significant chance against, or a goal against.

He still struggles to work with his defense partner or forwards to coordinate an exit out of the zone. It's often on Weegar to do that work. He's okay defensively, but struggles with an aggressive forecheck and sometimes misses coverage in front of the net.

Add in the fact that he hasn't really been that effective as an offensive player with just 6 points on the year. You have a guy that doesn't really do much in the lineup. He doesn't really kill penalties. He doesn't often play on the power play.

I'm not sure he's more than a 6/7 in this league. They were trying him as a top 4, but I just don't see it. He can fill in for stretches, but he needs to be sheltered with a strong partner.

[Badgers Nose]

I don’t think he is an NHL player, unless he addresses at least one of those weaknesses.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Ped

Flames need to find a way to get the rest of the blueline to help out offensively a little more. Miromanov, Bean, Pachal, Barrie, and Hanley combined have less points than either Andersson or Weegar, and that's with Andersson slumping and Weegar pointless in 6.

Those guys will never likely be big point getters in the future. Barrie due to age etc.

The Flames dmen point getters of the future are still in the minors or juniors.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Weird player. I think ultimately he doesn't think the game fast enough. His decision making is a touch slow on a pretty consistent basis.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Weird player. I think ultimately he doesn't think the game fast enough. His decision making is a touch slow on a pretty consistent basis.

That's what I am starting to think. He can make plays, and he can be effective, but under pressure he just just react fast enough.

In fairness, sometimes it just clicks for a player, and the game slows down for them. This might still happen for him, but it is looking less and less likely.

[boogerz]

Didn't he play center until his final years of junior? Maybe he can be purposed into a 13th forward and puck-carrying fourth line centerman for the rest of his contract

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by cannon7

If Miromanov was noticeable it wasn't for good reasons. If I didn't notice him it was usually a good game from him. He is about as physical, has about as good an outlet pass, is about as good a skater, etc. as a Nick Desimone. He'll be fine on the third pairing.

Got some heat for that take when the Flames traded for him...

So easy to get Sharangoviched around here.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Got some heat for that take when the Flames traded for him...

So easy to get Sharangoviched around here.

You are always such a victim...

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by burning beard

you are always right in retrospect...

ftfy

[Jiri Hrdina]

Some people REALLY care about being "right".

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Some people REALLY care about being "right".

I was hoping I was wrong about him, for the sake of the Flames. He has some good tools, but so do a lot of guys barely hanging on in the NHL.

My take back then was more a reaction to the Hanifin return. Sample sizes being what they are, who knows, maybe Miromanov will turn things around and end the season strong.

[TheScorpion]

Miromanov has been used exclusively as a top-four next to Weegar or not at all, which is kind of a weird deployment for a guy who strikes me as a PP specialist 5/6 guy.

I think he's been overexposed.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I was hoping I was wrong about him, for the sake of the Flames. He has some good tools, but so do a lot of guys barely hanging on in the NHL.

My take back then was more a reaction to the Hanifin return. Sample sizes being what they are, who knows, maybe Miromanov will turn things around and end the season strong.

I never viewed him as being the key asset in that deal. It's all about the pick, which is now unprotected.

And I think Hanifin made things difficult by basically saying he would only re-sign in Vegas. Limited the market.

But for me the success of the deal never hinged on Miromanov.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Miromanov has been used exclusively as a top-four next to Weegar or not at all, which is kind of a weird deployment for a guy who strikes me as a PP specialist 5/6 guy.

I think he's been overexposed.

I think pretty well every Goalie and D-Man on this team is over exposed. This team does not have a Centre who is a reliable break-out facilitator. Nor do they have someone who you have 100% trust moving the puck up the neutral zone. That is always going to impact a defenseman's decision making.

That said, Miromanov has not been helping in this regard either.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

But for me the success of the deal never hinged on Miromanov.

Never made that argument either. Quite the opposite.

All I pointed out then was Miromanov was a depth defenceman with some significant flaws and injury issues barely holding on to an NHL gig. I wasn't, at the time, going to make Miromanov into a bigger piece in that deal to delude myself about the Hanifin return.