[Rumour] Panthers making a push for Hanifin. Hanifin's preference is Tampa

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

Ya, but as someone who got crapped on by users in the past, the $h!tty 5% WAAAAAYYYY outweigh the value.

This, alas, is true in most areas of life.

If you give me a jar of vitamins and it says on the label, ‘95% CYANIDE FREE’, I am not taking those pills.

(The worst posters on CP are not cyanide, to be sure. But even the best ones aren't giving you any essential nutrients, so there you are.)

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Grzelyck is small and made of glass. Me thinks that return would not be great all.

Never been a fan.

[CFO]

That Boston package is pretty underwhelming. Hard pass.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Sweet baby jeesus. It's experience gained. Going through the tournament is valuable experience.

Only the goalie and one or two other players got any real experience out of it. Maybe the coach, too, but none of those other players learned anything from those playoff battles.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Only the goalie and one or two other players got any real experience out of it. Maybe the coach, too, but none of those other players learned anything from those playoff battles.

Riiiiiiiiight.

[BaconGuy]

Originally Posted by CFO

That Boston package is pretty underwhelming. Hard pass.

Hanifin isn’t resigning with us. Would this deal be underwhelming if he was a rental?

I think it’s a great package for us trading 2 months of Hanafin

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Do you not like Merkulov and/or Poitras? I no nothing about Merkulov but his counting stats look pretty good.

I like Poitras a little, bit of a muffin shot, see's the ice well and is a good passer but he just had season ending shoulder surgery which is always a worry.

Do you like Jesperi Kotkaniemi?

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

I'm told someone else is in the mix this afternoon.

In honor of Sec214

Oilers? That’s a thermal image of a toilet flushing

[Hoop27]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Do you like Jesperi Kotkaniemi?

You have my full attention.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Not really. If you were signing a 35-year-old for that season only, obviously you wouldn't offer him that kind of money.

But adding the 8th year allows you to offer the player more total money (which is important to guys just hitting UFA for the first time) while slightly lowering his cap hit (which is important to teams at all times).

If a player would sign for $9m for 7 years, he's very likely to accept $8m for 8 years. It's only an extra million for his 35-year-old season, but he has no guarantee that he'll still be able to play at that age. The team shaves a full million off his cap hit, which makes him easier to trade if necessary, and may be necessary to make an offer of that size in the first place.

The better you get at that, the closer you get to a Matthews contract, where they’re actually worth big money while they’re a superstar. $10x6, $11x5, $12x4.

Then you leave the retirement contract to someone else.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Hoop27

You have my full attention.

I pass
He is so overrated

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

I like Poitras a little, bit of a muffin shot, see's the ice well and is a good passer but he just had season ending shoulder surgery which is always a worry.

Do you like Jesperi Kotkaniemi?

Maybe as the throw in to make the cap hits even out, but yikes if he’s the main piece.

[Hoop27]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I pass
He is so overrated

Not as the only piece but a 23 year old center who is a good passer will at least get the conversation started in my mind.

[Buff]

[Sandman]

I would easily take Kotkaniemi.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by konradical

Kypreos said that Poitras,Merkulov and Grzelyck for Hanifin (extended) is a close deal

OK now we're talking.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Jesperi Kotkaniemi would be a terrible return.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I'd take Mercer or Lundell 10x over Kotkaniemi. Pass.

[MacDaddy77]

If flames are taking on his (Kotkaniemi) $4.8MM Cap hit for 6 more years there must be ALOT more to the pieces.

Although if he tops out at 3rd line C, that's good value moving forward. I haven't followed him, is he defensive or is that a liability in his game?

[Roof-Daddy]

Kotkaniemi is a "safe" low ceiling/high floor type of acquisition IMO

Not interested personally, I'd rather see the Flames take some home run swings that might end up being future stars even if it's riskier.