[PGT] Sharangoalvich Strikes Again! Calgary 3 - Arizona 2 (OT)

[FanIn80]

Back to the divisional stuff... let's not forget that, with Eichel week-to-week, Vegas is on the verge of sticking another $10M on the IRL just in time to go pre-deadline shopping.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Steinberg saying that the organization is high on Clark Bishop and he could be a candidate to come up and step into the #4 C slot.

[browna]

My guess is the Phoenix chap will get a fine, but it really should be more. There can be some argument that the first check to the head was a bit of an indavertant play battling for position, but the second one, while on the ground and at the feet of the ref was egregious.

And to soften the blow by giving Osterle, who drops the gloves and doesn't even touch the guy, 2 mins for roughing is just as bad.

[Enoch Root]

Vladar's last 5 games...

3-1-1
2.60
.908

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

The NHLPA needs to tell the league that every incident should be reviewed as if McDavid was the victim.

It’s a terrible way to live, but maybe they’ll finally feel shame about what they allow to happen to players.

The problem with the NHLPA is they represent both the victim and the perpetrator. "Protect our players, but don't fine/suspend/punish the players who injure our players."

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Vladar's last 5 games...

3-1-1
2.60
.908

Yeah…but Wolf should have started.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

The NHLPA needs to tell the league that every incident should be reviewed as if McDavid was the victim.

It’s a terrible way to live, but maybe they’ll finally feel shame about what they allow to happen to players.

The NHLPA is invariably on the side of the offender.

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Absolutely. I was pretty livid. Not just at the play, but also at how little the media is talking about it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if tomorrow comes and goes without a word about it from the NHL.

He pushed Zary into his goalie, then cross-checked him in the face with enough force to send him through the corner of the net -- and then cross checked him again while Zary was on the ice already hurt from the first one.

2 minutes for roughing? What the hell kind of call is that?

Can you imagine if that happened to an Oiler? Sportsnet would still be crying about it. There would be calls for Kesselring to be banished from the league forever.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by timbit

Yeah…but Wolf should have started.

I've seen a few of these comments. I can't speak for anyone else, but my wanting to srart Wolf has nothing to do with Vladar, and everything to do with wanting to find out if Wolf is an NHL goalie or not. Preferably this season, before we have to make any decisions.

[GioforPM]

I was confused at the game about how the double minor and the single to Oesterle got served. Was there anything else handed out? Kesselring and another Yote in the box serving Kesselring’s extra 2, Oesterle in for his roughing, all at 16:28. Flames got a powerplay, didn’t score and the guy sitting for the extra 2 came out. Next whistle, Oesterle comes out having served his 2 as well, but Kesselring stayed in, right into the next period. What am I missing?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I was confused at the game about the double minor and the single. Was there anything else handed out? Kesselring and another Yote in the box serving the extra 2, Oesterle in for hos roughing, all at 16:28. Flames got a powerplay, didn’t score and the guy sitting for the extra 2 came out. Next whistle, Oesterle comes out having served his 2 as well, but Kesselring stayed in, right into the next period. What am I missing?

Kesselring got 2 for the cross check. He and Oesterle got 2 each for roughing (LOL). Someone else had to serve his 1st penalty. That person comes out at the end of the 2 minute PP. Now it's 5on5. Oesterle comes out next whistle. Kesselring has to stay in the box for his 4 minutes (but they aren't short handed)

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I was confused at the game about how the double minor and the single to Oesterle got served. Was there anything else handed out? Kesselring and another Yote in the box serving Kesselring’s extra 2, Oesterle in for his roughing, all at 16:28. Flames got a powerplay, didn’t score and the guy sitting for the extra 2 came out. Next whistle, Oesterle comes out having served his 2 as well, but Kesselring stayed in, right into the next period. What am I missing?

Cause it wasn't a double minor. It was coincidental minors on the same guy for two different things.

16:28 Michael Kesselring Cross-checking against Connor Zary
16:28 Michael Kesselring Roughing against Jordan Oesterle
16:28 Jordan Oesterle Roughing against Michael Kesselring

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I was confused at the game about how the double minor and the single to Oesterle got served. Was there anything else handed out? Kesselring and another Yote in the box serving Kesselring’s extra 2, Oesterle in for his roughing, all at 16:28. Flames got a powerplay, didn’t score and the guy sitting for the extra 2 came out. Next whistle, Oesterle comes out having served his 2 as well, but Kesselring stayed in, right into the next period. What am I missing?

Right. Kesselring got 4

For on ice purposes, they serve the extra 2 up front

The other guy serving his penalty doesn’t make him eligible to return sooner

Think of it like a misconduct. No on ice impact but the player is ineligible to play

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I was confused at the game about how the double minor and the single to Oesterle got served. Was there anything else handed out? Kesselring and another Yote in the box serving Kesselring’s extra 2, Oesterle in for his roughing, all at 16:28. Flames got a powerplay, didn’t score and the guy sitting for the extra 2 came out. Next whistle, Oesterle comes out having served his 2 as well, but Kesselring stayed in, right into the next period. What am I missing?

Like EnochRoot said. He took 4 minutes of penalties. So he couldn't play for 4 mins and there were less than 4 mins left in the period.

On the other hand the Flames got a 2 min PP, so someone had to jump on the ice when the penalty was over. That didn't negate the fact that Kesselring couldn't play for 4mins.

[playmaker]

Pospisil with the play of the game:
https://twitter.com/NHLFlames/status...74542891786377

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Like EnochRoot said. He took 4 minutes of penalties. So he couldn't play for 4 mins and there were less than 4 mins left in the period.

On the other hand the Flames got a 2 min PP, so someone had to jump on the ice when the penalty was over. That didn't negate the fact that Kesselring couldn't play for 4mins.

Its still ridiculous

cross check to the face, cross check when hurt player was down
2 mins lol

ref had no intention of giving any more until the scuffle

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

I can’t really explain how angry I am at that play.

It’s needless, it’s violent, and it could very seriously injure a human being. It’s a rare type of person who even contemplates doing what Kesselring did, and the NHL needs to realize that type of anachronistic ‘tough’ old-timey play is a detriment to the league.

It was a non-hockey move against a player in an obviously vulnerable position who appeared to be injured. I would have no problem with the league permanently suspending Kesselring for the extra cross check he went back for while Zary was curled up in a fetal position on the ice.

If the NHL wants to get concussions out of the game, there has to be zero tolerance for these sorts of hits. Ever.

[browna]

Originally Posted by playmaker

Pospisil with the play of the game:
https://twitter.com/NHLFlames/status...74542891786377

After the pass at the Flames blue line, Kadri doesnt stop striding and fights to get the inside position on the defender in time to tap it in.

Our other centers seem allergic to any bit of contact or getting into/staying in the dirty scoring areas, at the best of times.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by browna

After the pass at the Flames blue line, Kadri doesnt stop striding and fights to get the inside position on the defender in time to tap it in.

Our other centers seem allergic to any bit of contact or getting into/staying in the dirty scoring areas, at the best of times.

Yup - we don't have enough forwards who would have scored that Kadri goal. Some, but not enough.

[dammage79]

I liked Kadris child like Celly after the OT goal. Just jumpin up and down like a kid.