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Old 12-06-2023, 01:57 PM   #141
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Wow, Quick was sheltered by that team.
Looks like only half a game in the 2nd one.
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Old 12-06-2023, 02:26 PM   #142
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meh, more teams to keep the Oilers out of the playoffs

Wild can keep winning
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Old 12-06-2023, 03:11 PM   #143
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Dude, people will, in the middle of a game, post that "Markstrom is rocking a .700 save % if the seventh shot goes in. Which is just not that unusual.
If the seventh shot went in, he would have a .857 save %
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Old 12-06-2023, 03:19 PM   #144
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If the seventh shot went in, he would have a .857 save %
I never said they were good at math.
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Old 12-06-2023, 04:01 PM   #146
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I think when someone criticizes Vladar on that first goal, they are either being incredibly unreasonable or are just demonstrating their negative bias. That's a shot few goalies are going to save. Even went in off the post, and it was a clear uncontested shot from the slot where Vladar had to readjust. That's just an elite shot and move, and it was because Solovyov just got schooled. Great example of a veteran player seeing who he is up against. Solovyov will learn for next time, but that was part of having a raw rookie.


I wonder if the Flames aren't mimicking the Oilers somewhat here. I can't help but think back to Dubynk, who I thought was going to be a really good starter. Then he just never managed to get himself on-track in Edmonton, and even started regressing. It took him a little while, but eventually he won the Vezina. I remember reading something that his goalie coach (I think in Minnesota?) was saying, about how Dubynk's time with the Oilers created bad habits in his game that took a while to iron-out. Dubynk learned not to trust the players in front of him, so he would start feeling the need to cheat. This created gaps that the opposing team would take advantage of, and one symptom of that was all the unnecessary movements in the crease.



I can't help but think that with how the goalies seem a little erratic at times, I wonder if it is a symptom of them cheating a little bit after being hung out to dry often. Anyway, just something to chew on and maybe look for in the upcoming games.


As for who should start, I think the Flames need to know what Vladar is. I don't think there are many teams that are going to pony up any assets for him at this point, so you need to show how good he can be - or not. Maybe the Flames need to figure out what he is as well. Will he be a great 1A tandem with Wolf for a while? Is he just a backup? Is he a #1 starter in his own right? I don't know that. He certainly shows it at times, and he was certainly trending that way when the Flames picked him up.



I want to see Wolf. I am mostly about the rebuild at this point, and Wolf is a piece of the future that has arrived today. I just think that organizationally, that the Flames are better off to give the bulk fo the starts to Vladar and try and figure out what they have in him before making a move with Markstrom (potentially) or dumping Vladar for peanuts (Giguere?), or whatever. I would like to see him being tasked with starting a good 5 or 6 games in a row (minus the back-to-back) and seeing what happens.
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Old 12-06-2023, 04:23 PM   #147
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Did we ever find out what the mysterious thing that happened after the Dallas game was from the GT?
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Old 12-06-2023, 04:29 PM   #148
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That dude is getting better shots off.

Guy beside me was complaining Huberdeau didn't shoot there. He shoots - easy save. Dube connect, good shot at a goal.
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Old 12-06-2023, 05:30 PM   #149
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Trade Vlader while you can still get a 7th for him. Anything is better than nothing... If Conroy waits too long we won't even get that.
With the lack of cap around the league, and his below average play, I expect he’d pass through waivers.

Plus righty now, who would be Wolf’s back up?
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That game was like me tonight. Started out half-drunk. Watched most of the first and fell asleep. Woke up when it was 4-1 for a bit, got a goal in and went back to snoozing.

Glad I didn't have to pay for it.

No effort. No skill. No attention to detail. And the Wild skated rings around them all night long from what I saw. So exciting. Blech.
What perchance was this on your end? Feed the ducks? Mix a batch? Finger wrasslin' the python? Shampoo a bear?
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