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Old 11-20-2023, 11:41 AM   #141
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It's unfair but nothing looks worse for a goalie than coming out to challenge and then getting deked and beaten with a cheeky flip into the net (Datsyuk).
I'm obviously not saying he needs to be an 80's goaltender and challenge, but he was swimming in blue paint at the point of the shot release. There's not a single part of his body touching the top of the crease on Barzal's goal. Wahlstrom's goal he's backing way too early based on the distance between him and the shooter.
Both goals were also unreal shots though.

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Old 11-20-2023, 11:43 AM   #142
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I'm obviously not saying he needs to be an 80's goaltender and challenge, but he was swimming in blue paint at the point of the shot release. There's not a single part of his body touching the top of the crease.
Both goals were also unreal shots though.
Watch him versus DeSmith. He's farther out.

Both goals hit metal and went in.
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Old 11-20-2023, 11:51 AM   #143
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Watch him versus DeSmith. He's farther out.

Both goals hit metal and went in.
I don't understand what Casey DeSmith has to do with this.
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Old 11-20-2023, 12:04 PM   #144
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I don't understand what Casey DeSmith has to do with this.
He's an example of another goalie in the shootout. Every goalie starts a tad outside and backs in with the shooter.

I think you are unhappy the goals went in and looking to scapegoate Markstrom. Have another look, He played those normally - he wasn't deep at all. A few inches inside the crease on Horvat's goal and actually touching the edge of the crease on Wallstrom's. Far from "swimming in the blue paint".

Freeze at 3:18 and tell me I'm wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k92sN2oChdg
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Old 11-20-2023, 12:08 PM   #145
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He's an example of another goalie in the shootout. Every goalie starts a tad outside and backs in with the shooter.

I think you are unhappy the goals went in and looking to scapegoate Markstrom. Have another look, He played those normally - he wasn't deep at all. A few inches inside the crease on Horvat's goal and actually touching the edge of the crease on Wallstrom's. Far from "swimming in the blue paint".

Freeze at 3:18 and tell me I'm wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k92sN2oChdg
I don't want to tell you you're wrong. I'm just having a discussion here, LOL. Markstrom had a decent game all around but I didn't think he maximized his chances in the shootout. I'm not looking to scapegoat anyone.

Also, I'm confused. Why Casey DeSmith of all people? Is he awesome in shootouts or something?

I referred to the blue paint swimming on Horvat's goal (looks like you didn't see the edit, my bad). Which he was (0:37).

Good depth would be on Andersson's shot on Sorokin (2:01).
Sorokin also doesn't have much choice but to back in as Zary as getting in too close (around one stick length) (2:53). I also don't think it was a great read by Sorokin and Zary had a good opportunity there.

While we're at it for consistency's sake, I also didn't like the save on Palmieri (2:25). Swimming in blue paint. On Wahlstrom's goal, I think he's backing up too early/quickly based on the distance between him and the puck. I think that's why no Islanders shooter went for a deke.

Again, even if he doesn't play deep I'm not sure he saves those shots. Those are Grade-A+ difficulty shots. Personally, I'd rather force the shooter to make a difficult attempt like Sharangovich rather than being beat clean.

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Old 11-20-2023, 12:12 PM   #146
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I'm confused. Why Casey DeSmith? Is he awesome in shootouts or something?
My bad - I was talking about Sorokin. I had my goalies mixed up between the last two games.
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Old 11-20-2023, 12:26 PM   #147
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My bad - I was talking about Sorokin. I had my goalies mixed up between the last two games.
Got it, also, I edited my previous post above.
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