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Old 09-25-2023, 08:05 AM   #141
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Sure, Coronato had a hatty and an apple, but really, he wasn't able to dominate in Penticton, so I wouldn't get your hopes up.
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Old 09-25-2023, 08:09 AM   #142
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I don't think there is much to take away from these games but Coronato's shot looks lethal. He gets it off fast and accurately.
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I’m mad because the Flames scored too many goals, which tells me they did something wrong somewhere along the line.
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Old 09-25-2023, 08:18 AM   #144
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I wouldn't have played my near opening lineup for the first exhibition. It should be used to evaluate and make cuts. Who is this false confidence for?

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The things people will come up with, in order to find a negative to harp about...

As someone said, they have 3 games in 24 hours, so everyone is going to play. Veterans typically play at home and young guys on the road. Some specific thoughts:

1) new top line, so they will want to get them some time together
2) new PP, so they will want to get them some time together
3) on forward: Ruzicka, Coronato, Hunt, Jones, Klapka, Zary, Pospicil - that's 7 of the 12, hardly 'near opening day' lineup
4) on D, got a look at Oesterle, Gilbert, and Solovyov

How is it false confidence? Why do people try so hard to find the negative? When the Flames play all the kids in pre-season, people complain that the vets aren't getting enough time to be ready for Day 1. Play the vets, and people post crap like this.

Six of the goals last night were scored by: Coronato, Zary, Jones, and Oesterle
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Old 09-25-2023, 08:22 AM   #145
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I believe there has been an Unholy transfusion of Blood from Stone to Hanifin because that goal....was a thing of beauty.

He just figured "f it, Imma hit this thing" and he just stepped into it and hammered it top shelf.
Pretty sure the shot was tipped by the Nuck player who tried to block it
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Old 09-25-2023, 08:39 AM   #146
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Kadri not Coronato


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It's nice to see some smiles there.
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Old 09-25-2023, 08:49 AM   #147
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It's so funny how pre-season stats can mean so little but also mean so much at the same time.

Coronato plays a fantastic game with under 15 minutes total ice time. Put's up a hattrick and defensively was very sound. By all accounts you couldn't ask for more, we know its just 1 game and it was a very Abbotsford lineup but his effort shouldn't go ignored.

If it was Fantilli or Bedard people/media would be going absolutely bonkers on TSN with fabricated highlight videos already up in droves. Instead we get get reminded it's just 1 pre-season game and the Cannucks roster was poop so he was lucky etc etc.

Can we not just be excited for the kid? (I know those of us here aren't the ones downplaying it) I'm glad Huska came out and said he was excited for the kid, along with a bunch of the vets. All echoed the same thing, consistency is key and he just needs to keep playing his game which EVERYONE knows, but at the same time its okay to get excited as a fan.

If he came out and had no impact last night, he would have been blasted much like Penticton. So I'm happy he dominated last night, goes to show you he's put in the work and is clearly ready for a top 6 role with the big club to start.
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Ticket prices are based on supply and demand.

No one is getting screwed. Don’t like it, don’t buy.
Humans are emotional, not logical.

They know that if they tell you your season ticket price is $95/game, and then as you're about to sign on the dotted line you realize it's actually effectively $104, you feel committed already and rationalize it away and make the purchase.

Same thing with how they now use the Ticketmaster algos to fake like every event is almost sold out. There is implied scarcity, our emotions kick in and tell us we need to act now, and it must be ok, because everyone thinks it must be this valuable too. Then you show up to either a half full venue, and wonder what the hell happened, or you talk to the person sitting next to you that bought their ticket for 60% of the price of yours because they bought later.

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It's like the debate over the Young Stars... the result doesn't mean anything, but the individual performances matter. And even though they were playing against poor competition there were some really good individual performances, especially Coronato. You'd expect Coronato to be the type of player whose game is force multiplied by playing with high end guys, and it showed.
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Early presaeson games tell you more about who doesn't belong than who does belong.
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Early presaeson games tell you more about who doesn't belong than who does belong.
I am not even sure this is true—at least, insofar as the early preseason games are concerned. We have seen many, many very uninspired preseason performances in years past that literally meant nothing.

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Old 09-25-2023, 09:16 AM   #152
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I think if Klapka can pick his spots a little better and stay out of the box, he could start the season on the Flames.
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Old 09-25-2023, 09:19 AM   #153
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I am not even sure this is true—at least, insofar as the early preseason games are concerned. We have seen many, many very uninspired preseason performances in years past that literally meant nothing.

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Old 09-25-2023, 09:24 AM   #154
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I doubt Coronato shoots the puck differently in the pre-season. Some parts of even these meanigless games absolutely translate to regular season.
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With respect to the narrative that it was our top guys against their plugs, here are the forwards on the ice for each of the goals:

1) Hunt - Jones - Coronato
2) Ruzicka - Zary - Coronato - Dube (PP2)
3) PP1
4) Ruzicka - Kadri - Dube
5) PP1
6) Hunt - Jones - Coronato
7) Pospisil - Zary - Klapka
8) Ruzicka - Zary - Coronato - Dube
9) Hunt - Jones - Coronato
10)Ruzicka - Zary - Coronato - Dube

So for 7 of the 10 goals, it was kids and AHLers on the ice - no reason why the Nucks couldn't be competitive against them.
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I doubt Coronato shoots the puck differently in the pre-season. Some parts of even these meanigless games absolutely translate to regular season.
No but there will be more/better pressure by defenders and a faster pace.
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Old 09-25-2023, 09:31 AM   #158
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No but there will be more/better pressure by defenders and a faster pace.
Yes, the shot is the same, it's the time and space that changes (better defending)
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It wasn’t how many that did it for me, but the way Coronato scored that made me think it’s going to translate seamlessly. It’s not like he had a ton of time and space or the best looks. He didn’t wind up, dangle, or do anything special. Pretty much every goal looked like he was just throwing it on the net, but his shot his super quick and accurate.

Feels like a Monahan type of scorer that’s going to be able to just tap in goals in close and with pressure. It’d be a huge win if he was.
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Very impressive game from every player you were hoping to see step up last night. Not a questionable performance from anyone and every Flame stood out in a good way. Was really impressed by Zary and Shaggy for their all around two-way play. Coronato made a statement that he can finish at this level. Made a couple shots that reminded me of the last top end RW we had. What was the most impressive to me was the difference in play and the tempo the team played at. No more ring around the boards and take low percentage shots. This was quick passes and try to penetrate the middle to get high quality scoring opportunities. It was how the team got nine of their goals and it was a pleasure to watch. Would have liked to have seen the defensive coverage in action but the Canucks were so overmatched they couldn't get anything going to where the Flames need to defend.
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