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Old 06-28-2023, 07:32 PM   #141
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I don't see any comparison to Jankowski other than they are both tall, lanky kids.

This guy wasn't a reach in terms of pre-ranking, it isn't a case of thinking if he hits he could be a superstar, he isn't a "hidden gem."
Hunter Smith or Kris Chucko perhaps more accurate. Not a lot of projections have him becoming more than a 3rd liner (if that). Low ceiling pick which seems like the wrong way to go with a draft like this.
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:32 PM   #142
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It's been well documented that this draft is very deep and Honzek has been ranked at the top of the draft consistently... how can people be legitimately upset with this pick? Feels like some people are just being insufferable on purpose at this point.
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:32 PM   #143
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Don’t have an issue myself, don’t know anything about him. Kid had the injury and was in his first year in North America.

If he had played the same number of games as Danielson (68) and produced at the same rate as he did in his 43 games he would have had the following numbers

36 goals - 53 assists for 89 points.

Danielson has 33-45-78

He also would have outproduced Yeager and would have been the fourth highest scoring forward year one draft eligible forward from the WHL in the draft behind Bedard, Benson and Cristall.
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:33 PM   #145
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6’4” kid that can skate. I’m not sure what the problem is?
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:33 PM   #146
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Sounded like the case based on Conroy's radio interview.

Sounded set on Honzek because he was enamored with a few viewings. Is that bad? No. But it could be a dangerous route if you're weighing first hand viewings over whatever your scouts from the east/US are saying.

I certainly hope they scouted the guys that fell as thoroughly as they did Honzek.

Hope Conroy struck gold, regardless of the process.

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Old 06-28-2023, 07:33 PM   #147
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Don't forget, this guy still needs to put on 15 pounds of muscle, and when he fills out and gets stronger, he'll also get faster. He was top-5 in scoring for U20 players in Slovakia's top men's league in 2021-22.
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I'm biased, but I think he's the 2nd best prospect behind Bedard.
As someone who knows nothing about him, and would like to know more, why do you think he's the 2nd best prospect?
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:33 PM   #149
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Led his junior team in PPG, near tops in +/-, almost no international tournament success at all though. I think he’s at least as good of a bet as Danielson and Yager, but they’re more certain to be centers. Talent level is similar.

Was really hoping for Wood, fricking Nashville. Sillinger ahead of Coronato v2, let’s hope Honzek is coming in to the league with as much potential as Coronato is in a couple years.
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I'm biased, but I think he's the 2nd best prospect behind Bedard.
Before or after the Flames picked haha
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:34 PM   #151
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Hunter Smith or Kris Chucko perhaps more accurate. Not a lot of projections have him becoming more than a 3rd liner (if that).
If you were looking for a Flames comparable maybe Nemisz, but that seems harsh on him. But fits more because he went in the general area he was expected, has good size but questions about offensive upside. But I think that is unfair on Honzek because Nemisz didn't turn out so puts a negative spin on the pick.

I would say no real comparable Flames pick from the past for him.
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:34 PM   #152
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6’4” kid that can skate. I’m not sure what the problem is?
People get mad at size around here, sakic went to see him play multiple times for their second pick. He must not know anything either
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:34 PM   #153
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I would have maybe made a higher reward style pick, but I think Honzek is a safe pick to not be a whiff.

As a new GM's first pick I can see the decision.
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People already comparing him to past Flames busts before he's even played a game lol
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Decent pick, not the greatest but honestly not as bad as some here make it out to be. 40-50 pt winger with good size and compete at the NHL level. May develop as a center.

He reminds me Joel Eriksson Ek.
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:34 PM   #156
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As someone who knows nothing about him, and would like to know more, why do you think he's the 2nd best prospect?
Because he was drafted by the Flames. The rest are inferior. Especially whoever the Oilers draft.
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Welcome to the team big guy. We're rooting for you!
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:36 PM   #158
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Ranked 9th amongst North American Skaters by NHL Central Scouting. Ahead of most of the guys everyone was wanting them to select, so it’s not like this was a reach.
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That's great, but going with the guy you've seen most this year doesn't mean you found the best guy of the bunch on the board.

Sounds like proximity was a large factor.

Important to lean on your scouts from all over who do this for a living.
What makes you think they didn't?

Also, to the comment that there were guys that had fallen, so it's a mistake not to take them, has it not occurred to you that all the other teams up to that point passed on those guys as well? There is usually a good reason when guys fall. Remember Shinkaruk? Ranked like 5th, and fell to 22nd. Most fans on this board lost their #### when the Flames took Poirier instead of him.
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:37 PM   #160
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I've been watching videos on this guy for a couple days, and I have to say I am excite.

Here's the blurb I posted a couple days ago from EP, as well:
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Rare is a shift where Honzek’s ability to protect the puck doesn’t appear. The 6-foot-4 winger gets and keeps defenders on his backcheck, using body positioning to create offence. But instead of just brute-forcing plays, he plays with a ton of finesse. He fakes cutbacks in one direction before going the other, turns to wait for pressure to arrive before accelerating, and combines the edges with in-motion handling to slip around defenders. -EliteProspects 2023 NHL Draft Guide

https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe.../samuel-honzek
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