[Rumour] LeBrun: All signs point to Hanifin not wanting to extend with Flames

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Why?

Both are UFA’s in a year.

Nylander is coming off a 40-47-87 year and has arguably the better trade value.

He's a play driver and super creative.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I wonder if the package could be built around anything else besides hanifin. And then I think both teams will want extension in place before the trade goes down..

I guess if Tre really loves Kylington. I wouldn’t trade Andersson or Weegar for him.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I guess if Tre really loves Kylington. I wouldn’t trade Andersson or Weegar for him.

Anderson and Weegar are good to win now or a quick retool. You want to keep them for sure.

[Moneyhands23]

I wonder if they would want tanev and Killington with Tj bodie added to Nylander.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by metroneck

I like Nylander the player, but why do you want to bring in another late 20’s, 1 season to UFA?

If we are moving Hanifin, we need a mid to lower 20’s 1 season to RFA.

The RFA Hanifin brings back will be much worse than Nylander. If they go the the retool route than he is a great target.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I guess if Tre really loves Kylington. I wouldn’t trade Andersson or Weegar for him.

I keep Oliver all day over Noah.

I bet given the chance, Oliver could eat more game time then Noah easily.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I keep Oliver all day over Noah.

I bet given the chance, Oliver could eat more game time then Noah easily.

I’m not as high on Kylington. He is the most chaotic defenseman I’ve ever watched and I think he’ll end up as 4/5 type of guy. I’d be happy to be proven wrong.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

How so? Then they lose someone else
So they trade Gio for a second and then lost Kylington
Is that better?

It is highly unlikely Kylington gets selected. He had done nothing and barely played the season going into the draft. Francis’ crystal ball would have had to been on another level to predict Kylington’s breakout with Calgary let alone thinking it would have happened in Seattle.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

It is highly unlikely Kylington gets selected. He had done nothing and barely played the season going into the draft. Francis’ crystal ball would have had to been on another level to predict Kylington’s breakout with Calgary let alone thinking it would have happened in Seattle.

So who would they have picked?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by metroneck

I like Nylander the player, but why do you want to bring in another late 20’s, 1 season to UFA?

If we are moving Hanifin, we need a mid to lower 20’s 1 season to RFA.

Because the teams mandate is to try and win now. You also don't trade for the guy unless you are sure you can sign him.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I’m not as high on Kylington. He is the most chaotic defenseman I’ve ever watched and I think he’ll end up as 4/5 type of guy. I’d be happy to be proven wrong.

I don't fault those who have that opinion, Noah is consistent and sometimes that's preferred..

Oliver is a gambling defensemen defensively that trusts his feet and offensive skill in the attack ... It's why he looked so good with Tanev, he was covering a lot of those gambles and 50/50 puck battles.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I wonder if they would want tanev and Killington with Tj bodie added to Nylander.

TJ has a modified no trade list, I would bet Calgary is on that list. He definitely would not want to leave Toronto.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by metroneck

I like Nylander the player, but why do you want to bring in another late 20’s, 1 season to UFA?

If we are moving Hanifin, we need a mid to lower 20’s 1 season to RFA.

Does that player/scenario exist though? If so, who?

I think the Flames would be hard pressed to find a young player under control with the kind of upside Nylander has. Those guys typically don’t get dealt without a young 20’s stud coming back.

[CliffFletcher]

Looking over team rosters, there really aren’t a lot of teams in win now mode who need a #1-2 LD.

The Kings just signed Gavrikov and extended Mikey Anderson. Can’t see them pushing either of those guys to the 3rd pairing.

The Pens are woeful at LD, but all of their decent players have NTCs, they’re up agains the cap, and they have nothing in the prospects cupboard to offer.

One dark horse possibility is Washington. They’re desperately thin at LD, and they have some cap space opening up. They’re not rebuilding (still trying to win with OV), but they have the #8 overall pick. I wonder if they’d be willing to part with it to go for one more big push. A fly in the ointment is the possibility Michkov might still be available at their pick.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Does that player/scenario exist though? If so, who?

I think the Flames would be hard pressed to find a young player under control with the kind of upside Nylander has. Those guys typically don’t get dealt without a young 20’s stud coming back.

So if you want to go that way it's Debrincat and I think Weegar would be more appealing to them than Noah.

He's local after all.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Sec214

So if you want to go that way it's Debrincat and I think Weegar would be more appealing to them than Noah.

He's local after all.

No way in hell I trade Weegar for Debrincat, even if he was willing to extend.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Sec214

So if you want to go that way it's Debrincat and I think Weegar would be more appealing to them than Noah.

He's local after all.

I think/hope the Flames wouldn’t put themselves in that position unless a third team enters the picture and they flip DeBricat for ___?

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No way in hell I trade Weegar for Debrincat, even if he was willing to extend.

I wouldn't do it either for what its worth.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I keep Oliver all day over Noah.

I bet given the chance, Oliver could eat more game time then Noah easily.

…..I’m in the ‘show me’ camp but if you’re right, that’s a big win for the Flames.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

So who would they have picked?

Lucic and made him captain? Gawdin or Phillips? Both looked better than Kylington. Who knows, but Kylington was a nonentity to anyone but hopeful Flames fans. The guy played 8 games the season leading up to the expansion draft. He wasn’t getting selected.