On ESPN last night, they interviewed McDavid in the first intermission, and the host asked him about his first even strength goa of the series. And McDavid whined something to the effect of 'why do you guys differentiate even strength vs PP goals? They all count the same'.
Yes Connor, they all count the same. But if you don't understand the point, you are NEVER going to win anything.
Also, after the interview, the host called McDavid 'intensely focused', because McDavid was a childish asshat throughout the interview. And in response, Messier said 'intensely focused - is that what we are going to call that?'. Even Messier could say nothing positive about McDavid's behavior.
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This will always stand out to me but there was an interview a couple years ago with Draisatil, McDavid, and James Neal (when he was on his start of season heater) and they asked "What is one rule you'd love to change about the NHL?"
And Draisaitl and McDavid were both like "I wish shootout goals counted as goals".
Like if that's the first rule you are hoping to change you know where your priorities lie.
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This will always stand out to me but there was an interview a couple years ago with Draisatil, McDavid, and James Neal (when he was on his start of season heater) and they asked "What is one rule you'd love to change about the NHL?"
And Draisaitl and McDavid were both like "I wish shootout goals counted as goals".
Like if that's the first rule you are hoping to change you know where your priorities lie.
LOL at Spector on 960 right now defending Draisaitl snubbing Pietrangelo at the handshake.
I don't actually think the snub is an issue. Dude two hands your wrist and I wouldn't want to shake hands either.
Now the whole fake slash the Oilers were doing all game, including with 2 minutes left when you're about the lose the series....now that was embarrassing.
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I don't actually think the snub is an issue. Dude two hands your wrist and I wouldn't want to shake hands either.
Now the whole fake slash the Oilers were doing all game, including with 2 minutes left when you're about the lose the series....now that was embarrassing.
It was embarrassing and it meant they weren't focused on the right things. I noticed that he took significantly less shots in the last two games and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a slight injury associated with having someone slash a forearm in that manner, regardless of what professional protection they have on.
Reminds me a bit about Dino Ciccarelli and Claude Lemieux back in 1996. Hard feelings aren't going to go away immediately after the game has finished, especially if you are on the losing end.
I do find it interesting that the Leafs lose and all the talk is about blowing it up. Oilers lose in the same round, give up 5 goals in 3 games and its all 'just wait until next year'. Matthews and Marner are younger than McDavid and Draisaitl.
I don't actually think the snub is an issue. Dude two hands your wrist and I wouldn't want to shake hands either.
Now the whole fake slash the Oilers were doing all game, including with 2 minutes left when you're about the lose the series....now that was embarrassing.
Draisaitl slashed guys all series, including game 6. And he didn't just snub Pietrangelo - he was pissy to every Knight.
Did Pietrangelo shake Kane's hand or did he snub him for trying to run him head first through the boards?
I don't actually think the snub is an issue. Dude two hands your wrist and I wouldn't want to shake hands either.
Now the whole fake slash the Oilers were doing all game, including with 2 minutes left when you're about the lose the series....now that was embarrassing.
That's the thing though - that's why it is so amazing and awesome that they shake hands after the series in hockey. The teams basically try to kill each other, and then when it's over, they shake. Much worse has been done, than what we saw in this series. And teams shook anyway.
No excuse for Draisaitl's behavior, IMO. The handshake is glorious, but he put himself above it.
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On ESPN last night, they interviewed McDavid in the first intermission, and the host asked him about his first even strength goa of the series. And McDavid whined something to the effect of 'why do you guys differentiate even strength vs PP goals? They all count the same'.
Yes Connor, they all count the same. But if you don't understand the point, you are NEVER going to win anything.
Also, after the interview, the host called McDavid 'intensely focused', because McDavid was a childish asshat throughout the interview. And in response, Messier said 'intensely focused - is that what we are going to call that?'. Even Messier could say nothing positive about McDavid's behavior.
I would love to watch this - anyone have a link to ESPN between period video?
That's the thing though - that's why it is so amazing and awesome that they shake hands after the series in hockey. The teams basically try to kill each other, and then when it's over, they shake. Much worse has been done, than what we saw in this series. And teams shook anyway.
No excuse for Draisaitl's behavior, IMO. The handshake is glorious, but he put himself above it.
He shook his hand didn't he...I thought he just didn't make eye contact?
I don't know - feels like they are making a big deal of what was nothing more than a cold handshake.
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He shook his hand didn't he...I thought he just didn't make eye contact?
I don't know - feels like they are making a big deal of what was nothing more than a cold handshake.
Took his hand and kinda tossed it away. Might have muttered something. But most players say something - good luck, good series, etc. Draisaitl and a few others were headed for the hills.
Took his hand and kinda tossed it away. Might have muttered something. But most players say something - good luck, good series, etc. Draisaitl and a few others were headed for the hills.
Feels like a non-story to me.
Actually feels fabricated by the Oilers media homers to not have to talk about how Draisaitl and McDavid weren't good the last couple games, and how the team was clearly distracted by Pietrangelo last night with their fake slashes...while Pietrangelo was a +4 and Draisaitl a -4.
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Something tells me the Oilers will be spending some time on the PP tonight and since everyone is ####ting on Skinner he’ll have a good game.
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Ok Woody, you better pull Skinner after he lets 2 stinkers in. Don't wait so long
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Vegas is going to have to have the game of their season to go toe-to-toe with a desperate Oilers team on the verge of elimination. Quite frankly, I don't think the Golden Knights have a good enough team to win against the Oilers playing to their potential. I expect the Oilers to kick the #### out of Vegas tonight.
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Boys, ho
w confident are we on this game? Debating tossing a quick 500 on it...
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Anybody know WTF happened to Louie on these broadcasts? Is he trying too hard to appear impartial? Whatever the reason he is becoming more and more annoying as the playoffs roll on. Its to the point where I am not even interested in his input.
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Not starting Campbell tonight means they have to buy him out.
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Skinner has the same playoff numbers as regular season Campbell
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They'll either step up the occasion and win, or shrink and lose. Either way they'll show us what they're really made of.
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I'm not worried about tonight but I am worried about next game.
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No handshake line tonight boys
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part of me want Vegas to get a big early lead and the last 2 periods are focussed on breaking Petro's wrist and Stone's back.
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No discipline or suspension for Kolesar. That's the second time he's avoided a suspension in his career after a dirty hit. I guess different rules apply to Vegas.
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League wants Vegas to win.
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This is a Knights team that shouldn't be getting to 3 goals a game.
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Leon Draisaitl has totals of 3-10—13 in seven career games when facing elimination
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HFOil - skinner with a .890 and they think it’s fine.
Campbell with a .890 and think he’s the worst goalie in the league
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We have an unblemished record this year when these guys ref, so hoping that continues.
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Oilers will win this game tonight.
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We're making nachos ... so it'll either be fun and happy nacho night or really dark and quiet nacho night where the chips are as soggy as Jay Woodcroft's explanation of what happened.
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ready to #### my pants 20x tonight, LETS GO OILERS
It’s Elimination Time
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24 f***ing seconds.
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Well I'm going to bed. Night guys! See you next year!
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Finally McDavid shows up.
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Shut up Louie already polishing vegas's pole
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Skinner #### his pants during the anthem
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We might have more goals than shots tonight
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Defense? We don't need no stinking defense.
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Foegele looking to have his best game ever.
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lol at the overreactions after the first goal.
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That’s like 3 ignored penalties in 2 minutes
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Hopefully refs swallow the whistle all night and call nothing.
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this is a great series that will be remembered if either teams goes all the way to the Stanley cup final.
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If only Nuge showed half the effort of Kostin
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Kane is as useless as Yamamoto
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No good sshoykd he ghree
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Trade Yamamoto and a 5th to Calgary for a 6th please.
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Pietrangelo should have got 2 for flinching.
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Kane has turned completely useless
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This team so predictable. Instead of going for blood, they just hang out by the buffet line.
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He started the playoffs like a house on fire. Now he's gone back to December mode. And now he's just taken another minus.
Marchessault could’ve unfolded a lawn chair, ate his lunch, and still had time to pot that one. No other playoff team routinely gift other teams goals like that.
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And we all know penalties won't be called (until we're losing by a few)
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Woodcroft saving McDavid for game 7
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All of our top six wingers are useless.
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Man we are getting absolutely walked by f***ing Jack Eichel.
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Pull him, suspend Nurse again.
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horrible, win or lose, Woodcroft is an assclown
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Skinner finishing what he started....sinking our playoff dreams.
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This team won't go anywhere until they have competent goaltending. Maybe...Olivier Rodrigue is the answer.
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The funny thing is woodcroft and his giant ego can't pull skinner an obscene 4th time.
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"To a man" I think we've been outplayed.
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Woodcroft proving he's an AHL coach tonight.
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We should have gone out and intentionally injured Stone, Eichel and Pietrangelo. Because apparently purposely injuring a star player is only worth 1 game suspension, it would have been worth it.
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Skinner not even one foot in the crease when the puck goes in. He should f***ing retire what a joke
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If Soup was our starter going into the playoffs we would be 8-0
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I hoped Nurse would play the game of his life today, but he’s been terrible.
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Logan Thompson, Lehner, Quick, Broissoit, Hill. How the f*** do they have that many goalies better than our starter?
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Seconds after a blatant pick is ignored they call us for the same thing. f*** off.
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Holy crap this script is getting old; down by 1 and they take a penalty late in the period.
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HOW DO THE PLAYERS REFRAIN FROM PUNCHING THE OFFICIALS IN THEIR f***ING HEADS???
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Honestly I think McDavid should ask for a trade this off-season.
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That was weak AF Hit him in the upper ass lol Brown cloud goes down like he got shot
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Dumb penalty by Ekholm. He's fitting in nicely with the rest of the Oilers.
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There's the nail.
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Well at least we know which players need to be shipped off, unfortunately it's half the team
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Book those tee times
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See y'all next season
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All the people saying see you next year. Feel free to f*** off and go away. No one cares.
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Another year of Mcdrai wasted. This time by Woody being a complete dumbass about the goaltending. One year closer to forever being remembered as the team with Mcdavid and Drai and no Stanley Cup
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I'm mad at Woodcroft and the league for letting Vegas get stacked like they are year after year.
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we’d be winning this series if we had Mike Smith.
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I wonder if that smug Woodcroft still thinks he is smarter than everyone else?
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Gonna need a 3rd period miracle
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Kelly Hrudey can sit on a dildo
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Oilers score 4 goals this period. I've seen the script. Book it
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This is worse than the decade of darkness because we are expected to win with these players. Always finding new lows
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Toronto maple leafs of the west
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Well I already started throwing #### and stopped watching. Should be cooled off by the time the handshake line comes round
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Campbell will lead us to the promised land.
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Nurse being traded would be my Stanley Cup.
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Woodcroft didn't deserve an extension. Last year was exclusively a product of mcdavid and drai going supernova.
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Campbell in
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Third period coming. We will come out strong
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Kane passes exactly like Lucic. So bad
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Ceci can't score into an ocean.
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Refs and the league have succeeded. Their darlings are going threw.
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Only Nurse can miss the net from 6 feet out.
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Oilers are a really good team held back by Skinner.
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Losing at home sucks even harder.
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This playoff run went by so quick. Feels bad man
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Refs ruin another game. It's rigged. Too much discretion is given to the refs by the league. Fix the damn reffing or I won't give another cent to the league. Enough is enough.
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The stick went straight vertical. That’s not a follow through
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Time to start swinging... give some bruising gifts to the Vegas players in the next round.
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Ekholm was close to losing an eye there.
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Vegas absolutely stealing this game ffs.
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Even sportsnet hates the oilers. They're really rubbing it in with that close up on fans faces.
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This might be my last year seriously following the team.
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I had a feeling in my loins we were winning this year. This hurts so bad
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McDavid hauled down away from the puck. f*** this rigged league.
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Eichel > McDavid
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such a loser way to lose.
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I hope hilland fuxking fires woddcroft tomorrow fuxk I'm mad.
The Toilet Seat is Down
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New coach please
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Good ol Oilers. This is why I never believe the hype.
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Missed high stick pretty much sums up the series.
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Good thing we have loads of cap space available to us to make meaningful changes.
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Same old #### D and #### goaltending
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I'm happy Debrusk's kid was eliminated in the first round.
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Regular season stats mean nothing. We should learn from this.
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Screw bettman and screw the refs
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Another summer of trying to find at least one goalie.
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Our 5 million dollar goalie didn't even get a lick of a chance
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Skinner the biggest fraud in the league
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Vegas exposed us as pretenders.
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Refs were the #1 reason we lost this series.
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Swapping the Nurse contract for a goalie needs to be an option.
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Thank You Gary Bettman
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Katz needs to clean house. From top to bottom; this organization needs to be overturned. Woodcroft cost us this season. McDavid's points don't mean a thing now. Now that his #### show is over, I do not have to watch gambling commercials, nor hear Singh and Louie again.
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You guys think it's bad with SN you should have heard ESPN talking #### about mcdavid and Draisaitl with the familiar look of disappointment while Jack Eichel gets to waltz down the tunnel to wcf. Unbelievable the slight.
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We just blew the easiest cup path this team will likely ever have.
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Year 9 next year of Mcdavid, with 0 wins outside the second round. Make no mistake, this is a colossal failure by the organization. Holland refuses to get an analytics department so we consistently get beaten by teams 4 lines and 3 pairs deep.
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I hope people aren't calling for Holland to be fired. He had a great trade deadline.
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RNH is just not a gamer. …. He'll be a gamer once he's traded. As is Oilers tradition.
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if it means anything we are the best team in Canada
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Holland has completely rebuilt the roster leaving no room to make improvements and the organization still has the exact same core problems they had when he took over
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I blame Dallas Eakins. His superpower is losing. Just him covering a series caused losing.
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McDavid and Draisaitl once again become footnotes in an NHL playoff year.
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Stay off the mains tonight boys, everyone’s ####ting on the Oilers. Especially toxic leaf fans.
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They had a veteran option available in net. Coach just decided not to start him.
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death by goalie, called it at the deadline. Not shocked. Go Lucic ..... barf ... whoo ... barf ... yay
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The LTIR system is a piece of #### that f***s teams with actual long term injuries and rewards cheating ####bag orgs like Vegas.
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Imagine thinking it couldn’t get any worse than Smith and Koskinen
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See you guys at the draft.
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I don't actually think the snub is an issue. Dude two hands your wrist and I wouldn't want to shake hands either.
Now the whole fake slash the Oilers were doing all game, including with 2 minutes left when you're about the lose the series....now that was embarrassing.
It's just characteristic of a culture of poor sportsmanship on a team of which Draisaitl is a leader. If he didn't want to play in a series where star players were targets of attempts to injure, he should have exercised his leadership skills in preventing his team and his linemate from taking it that direction. Pieterangelo's slash was a dirty play and shouldn't be in the game, but it's not as though it came out of nowhere. The Oilers set the tone for that, not Vegas or Pieterangelo. Failing to be a good sport by shaking your opponent's hand after being fairly beaten by them on terms your team set is just another L to take.
I really don't see how anyone could want their kids to cheer for a team with that culture. They have talent, but they're far from role models, and for all the talent they have there has been no team successes, only individual successes. That's not what team sports are about.
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