[PGT] Flames defeat Ottawa 5-1

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

I wouldn't say that's true at all. A lot of chances for high skilled players come off the rush. Players are taking the shortest path to the offensive zone on the majority of rushes because there is back pressure, so you're going to end up on your positional side off the rush more times than not. After that, sure, they'll move around and create as they see fit, but that's discounting a lot of the time they get with the puck to create high danger opportunities.

For sure as a pure passer he's forced to use his backhand a bit more on the rush coming out on his off side.

But opens him up for a better shooting angle too.

Bit of a give/take.

Sadly the team's offence off the rush has been pretty brutal all season.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

Nah, it’s so Paulie Walnut can act like a fake tough guy ######.

No need to insult Wally

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bingo

For sure as a pure passer he's forced to use his backhand a bit more on the rush coming out on his off side.

But opens him up for a better shooting angle too.

Bit of a give/take.

Sadly the team's offence off the rush has been pretty brutal all season.

except that he is a pure passer - probably more so than any other player in the league right now

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

We need good games from huberdeau and Kadri for the last 16 to even have a sniff

That's not a large body of work given how many nights they've coasted through thus far

Can they do it? Or do they take Arizona lightly tomorrow and coast again

This sums it up nicely. We can debate about Huby's impact and the coaches shortcomings in the offseason but for now the focus has to be on the next 16 games.

Everyone needs to step up whether it's behind the bench or on the ice if we have any sort of chance to make the playoffs. Let's just hope it's a collective effort and all parties have the sense to work together and disregard all this other bs floating around.

Just get the job done. That loss to Anaheim really hurt but build off of last night and continue to grab points. It's the only way at this point.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I fail to understand why there are still guys bringing 60% in a potentially galvanizing leg of the season with Markstrom finding a groove and giving them a shot

I don't know what could possibly keep the so called leadership group from taking the reigns and running a team like Anaheim out of the building to secure those points

The coach being tough and a bit old school doesn't seem like a valid explanation for a lack of pride and desire to win every other night, especially when you're given a golden opportunity to redeem yourself and all the pundits that wrote you off

It's mystifying

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I fail to understand why there are still guys bringing 60% in a potentially galvanizing leg of the season with Markstrom finding a groove and giving them a shot

I don't know what could possibly keep the so called leadership group from taking the reigns and running a team like Anaheim out of the building to secure those points

The coach being tough and a bit old school doesn't seem like a valid explanation for a lack of pride and desire to win every other night, especially when you're given a golden opportunity to redeem yourself and all the pundits that wrote you off

It's mystifying

This is a different perspective than mine. I don't see guys who aren't prideful. I don't see guys giving it 60%. I see players struggling mightily, namely Markstrom and Huberdeau, but I don't think either guy is just coasting. Markstrom clearly had confidence issues earlier in the season (but has been much better in recent weeks) and Huberdeau looks like a guy trying to do too much and overcommitting. I also see a lineup struggling to find any consistent chemistry. I see 4th line veterans who are working their asses off to stay in the league (even if it's clear to everyone they just don't have it anymore, sorry Looch).

If there's one thing I've never really questioned this year it's their give-a-#### level. I believe they all care and they all want to win. Things just aren't falling into place for one reason or another. It's not their year, clearly, but in my opinion it's not for lack of effort.

Have they been blown out once this year? I know they've had no-show games but I can't remember a game they just gave up and lost 7-1 or something. They're in almost every game, they just can't get over the hump to win. That doesn't seem like a team that doesn't care to me.

[dustygoon]

I didn't see the game but see some debate in here despite winning.

Can someone just TLDR me....are we good again or not?

[zuluking]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I fail to understand why there are still guys bringing 60% in a potentially galvanizing leg of the season with Markstrom finding a groove and giving them a shot

I don't know what could possibly keep the so called leadership group from taking the reigns and running a team like Anaheim out of the building to secure those points

The coach being tough and a bit old school doesn't seem like a valid explanation for a lack of pride and desire to win every other night, especially when you're given a golden opportunity to redeem yourself and all the pundits that wrote you off

It's mystifying

I know I'm being pedantic and it was probably just a typo and I'm adding virtually nothing to the discussion, but the statement is "taking the reins" as in the reins of a horse. You aren't the first nor will you be the last, but today was the day.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by zuluking

I know I'm being pedantic and it was probably just a typo and I'm adding virtually nothing to the discussion, but the statement is "taking the reins" as in the reins of a horse. You aren't the first nor will you be the last, but today was the day.

Way to rein on the parade.

Maybe you should go over they're and think about your ways

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Way to rein on the parade.

Maybe you should go over they're and think about your ways

Nah...need to think about weighs!

Hey...maybe all the players are overwait! (Ha ha ... too long in BC with Overwaitea...what the hell is that anyway?)

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

I didn't see the game but see some debate in here despite winning.

Can someone just TLDR me....are we good again or not?

Solid win. Strong effort from beginning to end. The Sens were never in it.

5 to 1, plus they scored early in the 1st but it was ruled offside. Also, 3 more posts. The Sens had maybe half a dozen good scoring chances the whole game. When they did get a chance, Markstrom was rock solid - one of his best performances of the year. Only reason he didn't get a shutout was an own goal on a silly bounce off Backlund on a clearing attempt (OTT never even touched the puck)

[zamler]

Galvanizing leg? Is that good or bad for you?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Solid win. Strong effort from beginning to end. The Sens were never in it.

5 to 1, plus they scored early in the 1st but it was ruled offside. Also, 3 more posts. The Sens had maybe half a dozen good scoring chances the whole game. When they did get a chance, Markstrom was rock solid - one of his best performances of the year. Only reason he didn't get a shutout was an own goal on a silly bounce off Backlund on a clearing attempt (OTT never even touched the puck)

The goal against wasn’t a bounce off Backs. It was Markstrom passing off to Backlund who then for some reason tried to fire it back against the grain past Markstrom, around the back of the net. It instead hit Markstrom’s skate and bounced right in front of the net. A bad idea by Backs, but also the worst possible carom.

[Enoch Root]

Sure. The point being it wasn't Markstrom's fault, it was Backlund's

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Sure. The point being it wasn't Markstrom's fault, it was Backlund's

Totally. Plus a heap of bad luck. The Sens matched it with one of their own.

[zamler]

I thought this was the first time this season we looked like a team for the entire game.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Way to rein on the parade.

Maybe you should go over they're and think about your ways

He's taking the rains down in Africa.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by zuluking

I know I'm being pedantic and it was probably just a typo and I'm adding virtually nothing to the discussion, but the statement is "taking the reins" as in the reins of a horse. You aren't the first nor will you be the last, but today was the day.

I chose to take is as a subtle pun. Leadership, reigns.. eh? eh?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I fail to understand why there are still guys bringing 60% in a potentially galvanizing leg of the season with Markstrom finding a groove and giving them a shot

I don't know what could possibly keep the so called leadership group from taking the reigns and running a team like Anaheim out of the building to secure those points

The coach being tough and a bit old school doesn't seem like a valid explanation for a lack of pride and desire to win every other night, especially when you're given a golden opportunity to redeem yourself and all the pundits that wrote you off

It's mystifying

They can't finish.

Nothing mystifying about it.

They brought it against Anaheim but couldn't score. It wasn't an effort thing at all which is why they were to a man so frustrated at the end of the game.

[Mr.Coffee]

Nah- there's absolutely an effort problem, and there has been for the majority of the season. It's simply an issue of watching them how hard they work and literally move their limbs. Expectations are pretty low if one cannot see an effort problem.