07-20-2022, 07:55 PM
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I mean when you have 12 and 34 as well as prime 28 you try to go for it every year. Sutter didnt hang on to his 1st round picks ill give you that, but how well has that worked out us for the last 8 years under Brads watch?
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07-20-2022, 08:08 PM
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#142
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: MOD EDIT: NO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Sutter was a horrible GM. He drove the car over the cliff and left the system in a condition it took years to recover from. He'll never reach that seat again, and for good reason.
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I'd argue Brad is doing the same thing right now.
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07-20-2022, 08:41 PM
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#143
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChief
I think fans have a short memory of Sutter as GM, namely the Kotalik/Jokinen fiasco paired with the Phanuef trade.
Sutter in my opinion was a great GM. Id wager the last 2 weeks of Brad is 5x worse then anything Sutter ever did.
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Kotalik
Phaneuf trade.
Chris Chucko
The 2005 draft
The 2006 draft
The 2007 draft (except finally a first rounder who played)
The 2008 draft (except Brodie)
2009 draft
The 2010 draft
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07-20-2022, 08:44 PM
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#144
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Sutter played GM like he was still the coach, just trying to win right now. There was never any future, it was all about winning now.
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07-20-2022, 08:48 PM
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#145
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Franchise Player
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Say what you will about Sutter the GM, but he built a contender that actually played in the Stanley Cup final, and if not for the phantom goal, would have won the cup.
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07-20-2022, 09:59 PM
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#146
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
Say what you will about Sutter the GM, but he built a contender that actually played in the Stanley Cup final, and if not for the phantom goal, would have won the cup.
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Mainly because he traded for Kipper.
That was the X-factor.
Changed everything.
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07-20-2022, 10:05 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I would rather get 8 years of Gaudreau and have him leave for nothing than do what Sutter did with Phaneuf and first overpay him, then also get a terrible trade return for him.
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07-20-2022, 10:07 PM
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#148
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Mainly because he traded for Kipper.
That was the X-factor.
Changed everything.
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IIRC it wasn't even Kipper he wanted.
Had to settle for him after they wouldn't give Toskala I think?
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07-20-2022, 10:13 PM
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#149
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
IIRC it wasn't even Kipper he wanted.
Had to settle for him after they wouldn't give Toskala I think?
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Yup, 100% accurate.
He got lucky.
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07-20-2022, 10:29 PM
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#150
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheChief
I mean when you have 12 and 34 as well as prime 28 you try to go for it every year. Sutter didnt hang on to his 1st round picks ill give you that, but how well has that worked out us for the last 8 years under Brads watch?
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Sutter did hang on to his first round picks (only trading 1 out of 8) whereas Brad has gassed 3 out of 9. It was second round picks that Darryl got rid of.
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07-24-2022, 11:26 AM
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#151
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Franchise Player
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So is there another shoe left to drop?
My feeling is since we also picked up Weegar that we’ll be moving a D man for a top 6 forward. Or potentially bringing Kadri into the fold.
Still feels like there’s one more move coming.
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07-24-2022, 11:42 AM
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#152
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First Line Centre
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No room for Khadri
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07-24-2022, 11:44 AM
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#153
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Franchise Player
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I think adding another forward depends on what they think of Monahan/Toffoli/Pelletier
Do they wait to see how Mony bounces back?
What does a full year of Toffoli bring?
Does Pelletier graduate and bring some offense with him?
It also depends on the cost to move Lucic, if there is one. Maybe they were willing to pay that price in order to fit Gaudreau and Tkachuks new deals in, but now they don't have to.
They might just go with what they have and see how it looks, they can always add later on if need be while they bank cap space through the season.
You have to remember that they also just added another offense driving top pairing D that they didn't have last year.
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07-24-2022, 11:46 AM
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#154
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#1 Goaltender
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Next move should be to extend Huberdeau and Weegar or trade them.
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07-24-2022, 03:40 PM
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#155
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Franchise Player
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Huberdeau Lindholm Mangiapane
Dube Monahan Toffoli
Pelletier Backlund Coleman
Rooney Ruzicka Phillips
Lewis
Hanifin Anderson
Kylington Tanev
Zadorov Weegar
Mackey
The only thing that I could see still happening is Lucic going to Arizona. I'd actually be happy having him in the place of Rooney, but once Rooney and Lewis were signed, I don't know what the plan would be, other than playing a bunch of old guys instead of Phillips.
If Phillips doesn't get a real chance this season, then I'll be happy for him when he is picked up on waivers by another team.
You can honestly run three defensive pairings with equal minutes, with that lineup. I could see Sutter loving that.
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