Changes coming to HNIC and Fan960?

[Puppet Guy]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

What a singularly awful comparison.

First of all, comparing Ron, a lame over paid rambling host to three hall of fame game callers? This is like comparing a rotten Orange to a car.

At worst and I love Ed, but the only comparable is like Ron, Ed tended to ramble a bit.

From a hockey knowledge standpoint, Ron literally brings nothing to the game beyond the whole "I was a ref you know" yeah a lousy ref.

Ron's ramblings, his clear bias, they could literally get a sock puppet to do his job, and that sock puppet would be way better then Ron.

Fire him, send him off to write his memoirs that nobody will read where he can lie about his character and his importance to the game.

I know one who's available!

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by colbym72

I have never seen the Oilers bias that many of you speak of. I think many of you just have a hard time seeing the people on tv say nice things about the other team sometimes. Major insecurities

I have heard Ron and that crew talk about McDavid being "the best player to ever play" on so many occasions this past season it's almost sickening. Compared to the love they give him, they give players like Gaudreau and Tkachuk nothing.

He's one of the top talents ever undoubtedly, but to make these claims over and over on national broadcasts when he and Oilers are quite honestly a joke in terms of team accomplishments is beyond cringe. Compare him to the legends of the game all you want, but you better put the asterisk beside which indicates he's won nothing and has never been close to winning anything that actually matters. Ignoring that fact is completely bush league from any analyst or broadcaster.

[Monahammer]

I think Singh is ok, definitely not awful like some people seem to believe. I don't want to belabor the point too much, but what exactly do people find intolerable about his play call? If it's his excitement with goal calls IMO you can take that thought and shove it right up your peen.

Hrudey also catches too much flack. I might be extra colored because he's a delight in person, but I also don't get the calls for oilers homerism against him and stuff. Ah well.

Ron on the other hand, that guy can hit the road. When hometown hockey came to visit our little corner of the world, I got kicked out of his trailer for DARING to sit on his couch.
What a tool.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I think Singh is ok, definitely not awful like some people seem to believe. I don't want to belabor the point too much, but what exactly do people find intolerable about his play call? If it's his excitement with goal calls IMO you can take that thought and shove it right up your peen.

Hrudey also catches too much flack. I might be extra colored because he's a delight in person, but I also don't get the calls for oilers homerism against him and stuff. Ah well.

Ron on the other hand, that guy can hit the road. When hometown hockey came to visit our little corner of the world, I got kicked out of his trailer for DARING to sit on his couch.
What a tool.

Historically great play by play guys have great voices that are distinct and unique. Singh just sounds like your buddy who is good at calling plays but wasn’t gifted with the number one quality in a play by piay announcer.
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[GioforPM]

Singh just gets stuff wrong constantly. And singing during a goal call isn't excitement - it's performance.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I do think Singh has potential. Gord Miller was not every good initially when he started doing PBP nor was Dave Randorf. I think Singh is actually better than both of them at the same stage of their careers.

Singh is only a newby in English broadcasts. For his years of Punjabi experience I would like better accuracy.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Singh is only a newby in English broadcasts. For his years of Punjabi experience I would like better accuracy.

Not sure if switching over to English after years of doing it Punjabi to would be seamless for PBD.

[Royle9]

Miller is great, love him for World Juniors.
Randorf not so much.

Singh just tries too hard, it doesn’t come across as natural.
He has tons of flubs and his singing of player names after goals is just tacky.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not sure if switching over to English after years of doing it Punjabi to would be seamless for PBD.

Player names and the plays on the ice don't change. He misses a ton.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Player names and the plays on the ice don't change. He misses a ton.

Yeah but it's fast pace and he's used to doing it in another language. I imagine he at times has to refrain from using punjabi at times.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah but it's fast pace and he's used to doing it in another language. I imagine he at times has to refrain from using punjabi at times.

He gets it wrong even after the play is dead. And if he's not ready for prime time, get him off prime time.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by colbym72

God I love the Flames but the worst thing about this fan base is the Oilers insecurity. You all get so hurt by the TV personalities talking about the Oilers stars and can't go a day in here without talking about why you think McDavid is overrated as copium

There was another example last night, just trying to show posters like you that it's not all in our heads.

Why are they talking about a player who has never won a game past round two in the intermission of a finals game.

Yes it's a RSN bias, happened last season too. Again ESPN is not talking Oilers, weird.

It's also being called out around the league not just in Calgary fyi

[smithtofuhr86]

Singh is certainly a work in progress. It's a few steps forward and a few steps back at times it seems. We're spoiled here in Calgary though, Peter Maher to Derek Wills on the radio side of things. Wills certainly may not have the same reputation as Maher did and of course Rick Ball is awesome. Singh may need to tweak a few of his phrases, such as "the box of punishment". Not sure how long the list is of folks getting into this line of business so Singh may be a permanent fixture for a long time if you watch the HNIC side of things. He was calling the final four so he was the last guy standing in the PBP line with Cuthbert. As my kids like to bug me when I complain about the commentators, "yes Dad let's focus on the guy calling the game, rather than the actual people playing the game!" Ha ha.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Singh just gets stuff wrong constantly. And singing during a goal call isn't excitement - it's performance.

The soccer style goal calls are brutal.

[saillias]

What exactly is the rumor about fan 960?
I've shifted entirely to listening to podcasts now as opposed to the live radio. The morning show and Flames Talk. Avoids ads and the different guests and convos are split up into different episodes on the app so you can avoid the Blue Jays Talk segment or whatever else you don't care about. as long as they don't touch that I'll be happy.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by saillias

What exactly is the rumor about fan 960?
I've shifted entirely to listening to podcasts now as opposed to the live radio. The morning show and Flames Talk. Avoids ads and the different guests and convos are split up into different episodes on the app so you can avoid the Blue Jays Talk segment or whatever else you don't care about. as long as they don't touch that I'll be happy.

Not 100%, but I think it has something to do with Fan960 rights for Flames broadcasting set to expire and penny pinching Rogers may let it.

[bluejays]

Like it or not, the broadcast has to have more visible minorities. Gone are the days where they could just appeal to the white demographic and say, "well, those are the primary people watching our broadcast". Now many more immigrants are into the sport, enough where you've cultivated more broadcast talent through school, and they likely have other talents behind the scenes aside from the Kyle Baukauskas' of the world. There's no excuse for having an all white cast anymore, so bringing in talented guys like Singh and Amber are welcome additions. The talent is there, CBC has to go the extra mile to find it.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by fleury

Like it or not, the broadcast has to have more visible minorities. Gone are the days where they could just appeal to the white demographic and say, "well, those are the primary people watching our broadcast". Now many more immigrants are into the sport, enough where you've cultivated more broadcast talent through school, and they likely have other talents behind the scenes aside from the Kyle Baukauskas' of the world. There's no excuse for having an all white cast anymore, so bringing in talented guys like Singh and Amber are welcome additions. The talent is there, CBC has to go the extra mile to find it.

I hate that the race card comes into play just because people are displeased with Singh... because that's the furthest thing from anyone's issue here. Nobody is asking for an all white broadcast team, people are simply voicing their displeasure with how certain people call the games. That comes down to their personality and skill level, not the color of their skin.

Let's not bring the 'woke' culture into hockey now please, there's enough of it out there.
(Not directed at you specifically, but the ideology in general if that's the case)

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I hate that the race card comes into play just because people are displeased with Singh... because that's the furthest thing from anyone's issue here. Nobody is asking for an all white broadcast team, people are simply voicing their displeasure with how certain people call the games. That comes down to their personality and skill level, not the color of their skin.

Let's not bring the 'woke' culture into hockey now please, there's enough of it out there.
(Not directed at you specifically, but the ideology in general if that's the case)

I didn't defend the criticism of Singh based on race. Frankly, people have been good about the criticism of him for their own reasons. I think he's talented and understand why some get irritated by his calls but I'm against hiring for X because of filling a box. I do think there are talents out there and you have to play to the crowd who's watching your sport. It's not about being "woke", especially in this situation.

[GioforPM]

I have no problem with Singh checking a box - I was pleased they brought him in, and I thought he'd do well, until I got pretty tired of him.

Amber - whatever. He's annoying but relatively harmless. They could do better even in looking for a visible minority for a host position.