I've already mentioned the potential issues with a spear especially in a national park.
As for the bear bangers, apart from the fact that randomly firing off bear bangers is a bit of a dick move, they are most definitely illegal in National Parks.
Seriously dude, you are really over complicating things and opening yourself up to a lot of potential legal issues.
Bear safety isn't that hard:
Practice good bear awareness
Keep your camp sites clean
Carry bear spray
That's it. Do those things and you'll be fine, and you won't have to have any awkward conversations with the police.
Geez, tell that to the family that was eaten in their tent last year. They did everything right.
I don't think I'm opening myself up to legal issues. I'm actually quite law abiding. I was in the States the past couple weeks and was knife shopping down there. So many awesome OTF knifes and switch blades, but I didn't want to be offside the law so I didn't get one.
This spear is a stick with a knife smaller than a few knives I guarantee you have in your kitchen.
I'm also descended from hundreds of generations of hunter gatherers. I'm 100% confident some spearing knowledge is buried in my brain somewhere that will take over should the time come where I have to defend unprepared civvies with my spear. I will be hailed a hero and dethrone Russic once and for all. Let's be honest, we've all wanted to kick a dog in the head, but who among us has speared a bear? I shall be the first in perhaps a hundred years.
I sometimes daydream about my faux humble speech I could one day be giving of how I faced down a bear with the tool of our ancestors. I want you to be in the front row eating crow while I do it.
Geez, tell that to the family that was eaten in their tent last year. They did everything right.
I don't think I'm opening myself up to legal issues. I'm actually quite law abiding. I was in the States the past couple weeks and was knife shopping down there. So many awesome OTF knifes and switch blades, but I didn't want to be offside the law so I didn't get one.
After moving down to the states here a couple years ago one of my first purchases was a benchmade OTF tanto. It's pretty slick.
My condolences to your knife dreams
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After moving down to the states here a couple years ago one of my first purchases was a benchmade OTF tanto. It's pretty slick.
My condolences to your knife dreams
Nice dude.
I was playing with that one. $400 USD, but it felt like amazing quality. I had budgeted on buying a sweet knife while I was down there, but I was literally reading the Canadian laws about knives in the store and it would have been a fricken felony to bring it back. All the legal knives weren't different than anything we could get here, so I came back with nothing.
Geez, tell that to the family that was eaten in their tent last year. They did everything right.
I don't think I'm opening myself up to legal issues. I'm actually quite law abiding. I was in the States the past couple weeks and was knife shopping down there. So many awesome OTF knifes and switch blades, but I didn't want to be offside the law so I didn't get one.
This spear is a stick with a knife smaller than a few knives I guarantee you have in your kitchen.
I'm also descended from hundreds of generations of hunter gatherers. I'm 100% confident some spearing knowledge is buried in my brain somewhere that will take over should the time come where I have to defend unprepared civvies with my spear. I will be hailed a hero and dethrone Russic once and for all. Let's be honest, we've all wanted to kick a dog in the head, but who among us has speared a bear? I shall be the first in perhaps a hundred years.
I sometimes daydream about my faux humble speech I could one day be giving of how I faced down a bear with the tool of our ancestors. I want you to be in the front row eating crow while I do it.
Sorry, this guy beat you to it. NSF animal lovers. Now, this guy is a pro, and stayed up in a tree while the bear thrashed around. I'm trying to imagine being on ground level as it happened, and I'm not sure it would have turned out well for him. I think you'd be far safer spraying it. ~ 6min in the video.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I am guessing that you are going hiking in some very popular, highly trafficked spots in Jasper. Your risk of getting attacked and possibly eaten by a bear is low. I wouldn’t compare your situation to the people backcountry camping and got attacked. It would be a waste of energy to carry that thing and you’ll get tired of it. The tip is only 8” too. The tang will probably keep it from skewering a bear much deeper than that. The bear would have to be really skinny for that to damage anything.
Fuzz: this isn't without its risks, that's true. I'm not one to just stay put on the safe bike paths of Calgary, though. Play in your your clay pile. Hide in your garage. Chain up your cat. I'll be in the mountains facing down bears risks be damned.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I am guessing that you are going hiking in some very popular, highly trafficked spots in Jasper. Your risk of getting attacked and possibly eaten by a bear is low. I wouldn’t compare your situation to the people backcountry camping and got attacked.
Wormius I need you to remember this: If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
I feel like you're always trying to knock me down a peg. Am I going on popular, high-traffic hikes? I choose not to answer. This has the same energy as when you belittled my fake cigarette.
Wormius I need you to remember this: If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
I feel like you're always trying to knock me down a peg. Am I going on popular, high-traffic hikes? I choose not to answer. This has the same energy as when you belittled my fake cigarette.
You’re just walking the streets of the townsite, aren’t you?
Fuzz: this isn't without its risks, that's true. I'm not one to just stay put on the safe bike paths of Calgary, though. Play in your your clay pile. Hide in your garage. Chain up your cat. I'll be in the mountains facing down bears risks be damned.
I know your jesting, but I've probably been face to face with more bears than you have! Been within a couple feet of one, once. Suddenly. As you can tell, I didn't need a spear to survive.
I was playing with that one. $400 USD, but it felt like amazing quality. I had budgeted on buying a sweet knife while I was down there, but I was literally reading the Canadian laws about knives in the store and it would have been a fricken felony to bring it back. All the legal knives weren't different than anything we could get here, so I came back with nothing.
I wonder if it's the same one? Black handle, tan blade? If memory serves I think I paid $280.
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Geez, tell that to the family that was eaten in their tent last year. They did everything right.
I don't think I'm opening myself up to legal issues. I'm actually quite law abiding. I was in the States the past couple weeks and was knife shopping down there. So many awesome OTF knifes and switch blades, but I didn't want to be offside the law so I didn't get one.
This spear is a stick with a knife smaller than a few knives I guarantee you have in your kitchen.
I'm also descended from hundreds of generations of hunter gatherers. I'm 100% confident some spearing knowledge is buried in my brain somewhere that will take over should the time come where I have to defend unprepared civvies with my spear. I will be hailed a hero and dethrone Russic once and for all. Let's be honest, we've all wanted to kick a dog in the head, but who among us has speared a bear? I shall be the first in perhaps a hundred years.
I sometimes daydream about my faux humble speech I could one day be giving of how I faced down a bear with the tool of our ancestors. I want you to be in the front row eating crow while I do it.
I mean, if you're walking around a national park with bear bangers, you literally aren't.
It doesn't affect me 1 bit if you walk around with a spear or bear bangers, I'm just warning you that one of those is definitely illegal in Jasper, and the other may be in enough of a grey area to cause you some issues.
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I mean, if you're walking around a national park with bear bangers, you literally aren't.
It doesn't affect me 1 bit if you walk around with a spear or bear bangers, I'm just warning you that one of those is definitely illegal in Jasper, and the other may be in enough of a grey area to cause you some issues.
I don't know about any of this. I mean, you can buy bear bangers at the Canadian Tire in Canmore. I've only ever super pissed off one dude with them. He looked like he wanted to kill me because he took his family off the hike thinking there was a bear. I'm like, 'dude, I'm clearing the trails for you and your family. Calm the f down.'
I realize Canmore isn't in the Park, but it's close enough.
Most people are super stoked to watch you shoot one off. They're bonkers loud.
But yeah, I know for a fact you're allowed to carry a knife. My knife holder is on a walking stick. I don't see this issue. Imma chance it. I think my safety and my family's safety is worth it. I'll set up a gofundme if I need you guys to bail me out.
Anyway, let's all move on. It's a spear. They've been a tool since caveman days. You can legally purchase them in Canada evidenced by the fact that I just legally purchased one. I like hiking and I'm scared of bears. I can't carry a gun, but I can maybe carry a spear so I'm going to. It's more of a walking stick, really. I can't imagine some parks dude creating problems for me.
I appreciate your input despite me sounding argumentative. I concede it's a grey area, but I don't mind operating in that area for something so important.
Hopefully Danielle Smith's bear cull will make all of this a non-issue soon, anyway.
I wanted a knife that wasn't black because basically my whole collection is black handled. Didn't even set out to do that...I just like black knives, apparently.
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I don't know about any of this. I mean, you can buy bear bangers at the Canadian Tire in Canmore. I've only ever super pissed off one dude with them. He looked like he wanted to kill me because he took his family off the hike thinking there was a bear. I'm like, 'dude, I'm clearing the trails for you and your family. Calm the f down.'
I realize Canmore isn't in the Park, but it's close enough.
Most people are super stoked to watch you shoot one off. They're bonkers loud.
But yeah, I know for a fact you're allowed to carry a knife. My knife holder is on a walking stick. I don't see this issue. Imma chance it. I think my safety and my family's safety is worth it. I'll set up a gofundme if I need you guys to bail me out.
Anyway, let's all move on. It's a spear. They've been a tool since caveman days. You can legally purchase them in Canada evidenced by the fact that I just legally purchased one. I like hiking and I'm scared of bears. I can't carry a gun, but I can maybe carry a spear so I'm going to. It's more of a walking stick, really. I can't imagine some parks dude creating problems for me.
I appreciate your input despite me sounding argumentative. I concede it's a grey area, but I don't mind operating in that area for something so important.
Hopefully Danielle Smith's bear cull will make all of this a non-issue soon, anyway.
You can buy guns at Canadian tire too, that doesn't mean they are allowed in National Parks.
I'm telling you, they are 100% illegal in the park: https://publications.gc.ca/collectio...4-2021-eng.pdf
Pay special attention to the "Firearms and Hunting" section of that.
And the dude who was upset is right.
They aren't for preemptively "Clearing" an area, they are for using when there is a bear around.
Is it a dick move/dumb thing to do? Maybe, your results may vary.
Is it illegal to even have them in a National Park. 100% yes.
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