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Old 08-22-2021, 01:34 PM   #141
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Ultimately it desn't matter much though since neither club is built to go very far.

Now if you combined the teams and made a best of alberta team they might have a shot.

Flames lack elite top end up front, Oilers are a circus on the back end.
I’d argue the flames are a circus on the back end too.
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Old 08-22-2021, 01:43 PM   #142
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I’d argue the flames are a circus on the back end too.
No one in our circus makes $9.25 million for the next 8 years.
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I’d argue the flames are a circus on the back end too.
Nope, nothing could be even remotely compared to the utter trash of a blueline your GM has assembled.

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I’d argue the flames are a circus on the back end too.
Of course you would…. Let me guess, you see the Oilers defense as stronger than the Flames….
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When did the oilers get ristolinen?
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:15 PM   #146
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When did the oilers get ristolinen?
This was made when the Oilers were apparently in the running for Ristolainen. Instead they opted to give Cody Ceci the spot for 3 years. I imagine it's even worse when you sub Ceci for Ristolainen.
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Old 08-22-2021, 03:07 PM   #147
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Nope, nothing could be even remotely compared to the utter trash of a blueline your GM has assembled.

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You’re whole argument is based on those war charts? Which are based off a guy who will tweak his data to fit his narrative? Did you see Tanev charts when you acquired him? They mean squat.
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Of course you would…. Let me guess, you see the Oilers defense as stronger than the Flames….
Do you think the Flames have a strong defense?
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Keep convincing yourself that your D isn’t a sham Stang it will make it that much funnier when reality starts to sink in. Everyone is seemingly jumping on the hypewagon that is the Oilers like clock work and it’s the same likely script. Talk to me at the end of November and we will see what’s up.
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Old 08-22-2021, 03:20 PM   #150
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Keep convincing yourself that your D isn’t a sham Stang it will make it that much funnier when reality starts to sink in. Everyone is seemingly jumping on the hypewagon that is the Oilers like clock work and it’s the same likely script. Talk to me at the end of November and we will see what’s up.
Well I’ll base it off how they play this season instead of some hippy dippy war charts. Even with our “sham” defense I still think we end up above the flames. And I really dont see how flames defense is any better.
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Do you think the Flames have a strong defense?
Yes.

I don’t think you realize how much a generational player can mask deficiencies. McDavid’s been doing that since he entered the league.
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Well I’ll base it off how they play this season instead of some hippy dippy war charts. Even with our “sham” defense I still think we end up above the flames. And I really dont see how flames defense is any better.
Defensively, I’d put any of the Calgary top 4 ahead of any Oilers DMan. Including Rasmus. Tanev is obviously a stud defensively, Hanifin took giant steps and while Zadorov can take bad penalties, he’s also a punishing guy that the Flames haven’t had in years.
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Yes.

I don’t think you realize how much a generational player can mask deficiencies. McDavid’s been doing that since he entered the league.
How does Mcdavid masking deficiencies make Calgary have a good defence?
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Defensively, I’d put any of the Calgary top 4 ahead of any Oilers DMan. Including Rasmus. Tanev is obviously a stud defensively, Hanifin took giant steps and while Zadorov can take bad penalties, he’s also a punishing guy that the Flames haven’t had in years.
Bahaha ok then.
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You’re whole argument is based on those war charts? Which are based off a guy who will tweak his data to fit his narrative? Did you see Tanev charts when you acquired him? They mean squat.
Please explain how the statistical data is tweaked?
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How does Mcdavid masking deficiencies make Calgary have a good defence?
It doesn’t, but Calgary’s defence is significantly better than Edmonton’s
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Ricardo is one of the biggest jokes I've come across on CP.

I say that as a compliment because that's clearly his shtick and loves getting a rouse out of people with his consistent ludicrous, incredibly wrong opinions.
And people take the bait everytime

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Well I’ll base it off how they play this season instead of some hippy dippy war charts. Even with our “sham” defense I still think we end up above the flames. And I really dont see how flames defense is any better.
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Please explain how the statistical data is tweaked?
Go read his Twitter, he’s tweaking it if something doesn’t fit how he thinks it should be. “Oh hey I did this but it looks weird so let me adjust it” No clue how he’s gets his numbers, how he weighs them, or how he adjusts them. Just know he does.

Last year Tanev was a super star and the year before that he was “replacement level”

which one is he?
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Well last year he was a “superstar”

Everyone in the league said it even without those charts.
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