08-06-2021, 04:05 PM
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#141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup
Uh no, but I try to look at it from the Oilers perspective.
McDavid has 5 years left; Drai 4. They should be mortgaging their future to go all in and get good players to play with McDrai for the next 4 years. Use all your 2025+ picks and cap space to win now. If you don't, McDavid/Drai will leave and you will have wasted your golden ticket. That should be the plan, and them acting within that plan makes a lot of sense.
They've already wasted 6 years of McDavid having him play with no-talent sucks like Neal, Chiasson, Kassian, Archibald. On the back end, their best players have been Kris Russell, Klefbom, Sekera, and Larsson. That's a lot of suck.
This deal is a big overpay, but a) they need good players on their team now. b) the worst part of the contract will be in years 4+. This reasoning also shows why the Hyman signing is smart for them. Ceci is terrible though.
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If they need good players on their team now they shouldn’t be giving Nurse 9.25. He’s not that good of a player and now it ensures they have no room to add any other “good” players.
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08-06-2021, 04:14 PM
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#142
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Franchise Player
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My god, this is absolutely tremendous!
Nurse, this past season, was top pairing offensively, and 3rd pairing defensively. His numbers were elevated from an insanely hot PP, a really soft schedule (especially getting 4 games against OTT early when their goalies couldn't stop a beach ball, and (most importantly), a lot of luck with an unsustainable shooting percentage.
After having the year he had, getting $6+ was probably a given.
But they gave him $9+!! Nine and a quarter million effing dollars!!!
LOL!!!
Holland is threatening to unseed Chiapet as the greatest GM in Oiler history.
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08-06-2021, 04:19 PM
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#143
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Ah I see. So Holland wants to be fired and be yet another ex-Oiler being paid to not work for them.
Shrewd. Shrewd move Kenny.
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08-06-2021, 04:25 PM
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#144
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup
Uh no, but I try to look at it from the Oilers perspective.
McDavid has 5 years left; Drai 4. They should be mortgaging their future to go all in and get good players to play with McDrai for the next 4 years. Use all your 2025+ picks and cap space to win now. If you don't, McDavid/Drai will leave and you will have wasted your golden ticket. That should be the plan, and them acting within that plan makes a lot of sense.
They've already wasted 6 years of McDavid having him play with no-talent sucks like Neal, Chiasson, Kassian, Archibald. On the back end, their best players have been Kris Russell, Klefbom, Sekera, and Larsson. That's a lot of suck.
This deal is a big overpay, but a) they need good players on their team now. b) the worst part of the contract will be in years 4+. This reasoning also shows why the Hyman signing is smart for them. Ceci is terrible though.
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I agree with you. Holland's basically throwing all his hopes into the next 4 years. He doesn't care about long term down the road. His mandate is probably to try to get the team competitive until their window closes and both McDavid and Draisaitl are gone.
It wouldn't be a bad strategy if the Oilers were actually built properly around McDavid. But alas, that team is such a tire fire mess, it's hilarious to watch them piss away cap space to overpay for mediocre talent.
Nurse is a 2nd pairing dman that overachieved last year because of the weak North division competition. I bet he becomes the new Oilers whipping boy in a couple of years.
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08-06-2021, 04:25 PM
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#145
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Owner
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Location: Calgary
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08-06-2021, 04:26 PM
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#146
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
I agree with you. Holland's basically throwing all his hopes into the next 4 years. He doesn't care about long term down the road. His mandate is probably to try to get the team competitive until their window closes and both McDavid and Draisaitl are gone.
It wouldn't be a bad strategy if the Oilers were actually built properly around McDavid. But alas, that team is such a tire fire mess, it's hilarious to watch them piss away cap space to overpay for mediocre talent.
Nurse is a 2nd pairing dman that overachieved last year because of the weak North division competition. I bet he becomes the new Oilers whipping boy in a couple of years.
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I'm guessing the plan is to let Draisaitl walk as McDavid has the extra year, and then liquidate McDavid in the summer before his final season in Edmonton.
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08-06-2021, 04:31 PM
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#147
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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So 58M over the first 5 years all with a complete NMC.
That is some seriously good work by his agents.
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08-06-2021, 04:32 PM
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#148
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On the same day Lamoriello signs an arguably better d-man to 8 x $5.75m. Classic. Absolutely classic.
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08-06-2021, 04:32 PM
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#149
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Quinn Hughes!!! Come on Down!!! Your the next D-Man on The PAYDAY is RIGHT!!!!
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08-06-2021, 04:35 PM
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#150
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Bingo
I'm guessing the plan is to let Draisaitl walk as McDavid has the extra year, and then liquidate McDavid in the summer before his final season in Edmonton.
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Like "Stalin liquidate"? Pretty ruthless, but perhaps that is what you have to do...
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08-06-2021, 04:37 PM
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#151
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Sweden
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No.
Pigs really can fly.
I’ve seen it all.
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08-06-2021, 04:38 PM
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#152
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
30.5M on 3 players.
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You only have six players on the ice, that leaves 50M for the other 3.
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08-06-2021, 04:40 PM
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#153
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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McDavid made nurse's grandchildren rich today.
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08-06-2021, 04:49 PM
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#154
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Icing on the cake of what's been a really bad offseason for NHL GM's. Way too many overpayments for non-elite players in an era where the salary cap will remain flat for some time.
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08-06-2021, 05:00 PM
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#155
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Are they good enough to win a cup? because this is it...they have no cap space for anything else
IMO the goaltending and D isn't even close to cup contending. Smith comes back to earth and they are a bubble team.
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They wont even be able to afford a new Hip for Smith.
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08-06-2021, 05:13 PM
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#156
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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I dare not dip my toe in Oilers nation. Would love a ATL on how this is fairing.
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08-06-2021, 05:26 PM
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#157
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Originally Posted by Bingo
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Why would you want to front load a contract when escrow is at it's highest?
Hard to believe the player and the agent are both that dumb.
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08-06-2021, 05:36 PM
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#158
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Today is a good day.
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08-06-2021, 05:37 PM
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#159
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Francis's Hairpiece
Today is a good day.
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Its been a long time since I've laughed this hard.
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08-06-2021, 05:38 PM
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#160
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Jacks
Why would you want to front load a contract when escrow is at it's highest?
Hard to believe the player and the agent are both that dumb.
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It's also one year delayed, so that will help push the escrow payments down to the the cheaper years, but with that delay, they could have saved Nurse so much more.
On second thought: with the time value of money factored in and inflation on the rise because of our governments mismanagement of the economy and COVID - it may not matter much
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