Official available and protected lists

[Weirdness]

I know there's zero chance it will happen, but I would absolutely love it if Seattle lands Ovechkin. If Ron Francis isn't at least kicking the tires on Ovi then he's not doing his job. If you got a chance to get him, shoot your shot.

[Captaincanada80]

Originally Posted by MrMike

He is the most overpaid player in the league. Gifted that stupid contract after putting up one season of 30 goals and like 15 assists. He's a 3.5-4 mill player at most. Just awful.

1. Skinner
2. Bobrovsky
3. OEL
4. Ladd
5. Karlsson
6. Eriksson
7. Seabrook
8. Valasic
9. Parise
10 Suter
11. Lucic
12. Neal
13. Duchene

shall we continue?

[SebC]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Has everyone putting Virtanen in their team Seattle picks not googled him lately or been following the news?

0% chance they take him

Not saying you're wrong, but who do you think they take/should take from Vancouver?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by SebC

Not saying you're wrong, but who do you think they take/should take from Vancouver?

Im guessing they take Holtby.

[dino7c]

Holtby is terrible and overpaid...that would be a terrible pick

[Locke]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Holtby is terrible and overpaid...that would be a terrible pick

Especially when its almost a done deal that they're going to take Driedger from Florida.

You need a mid-range, mid-pay, steady partner for him. Not breaking the bank on older, expensive goaltenders.

There is a reason these guys are available. Nobody is throwing life-preservers here if they can avoid it. Vegas was lucky, they caught everyone off guard, now most of these guys know the drill.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by SebC

Not saying you're wrong, but who do you think they take/should take from Vancouver?

My guess is they probably take Lind. He projects as a possible bottom 6 player with some scoring ability, they tried to make him a center last year in the ahl.

They are interested in Holtby but drance said in athletic article yesterday that they were trying to get Vancouver to sweeten the deal, maybe a late round pick, more likely retain some cap.

He also said there's 4-5 teams interested in Holtby so Canucks kind of think they won't need to retain when moving him now and could do so in a trade.

If they don't take price, I think there's a real chance they take Holtby, but not getting my hopes up, so it will probably be kind

Canucks just have nothing else really. 4 of their 8 most valuable assets are exempt

[cannon7]

Who I like (or what has to be picked because there's basically nothing):

Anaheim: Milano, Sonny (LW)
Arizona: Fischer, Christian (RW)
Boston: Zboril, Jakub (LD)
Buffalo: Miller, Colin (RD)
Calgary: Giordano, Mark (LD)
Carolina: Bean, Jake (LD)
Chicago: Gaudette, Adam (C)
Colorado: Compher, J.T. (RW)
Columbus: Domi, Max (C)
Dallas: L'Esperance, Joel (C)
Detroit: Djoos, Christian (LD)
Edmonton: Kahun, Dominik (LW)
Florida: Vatrano, Frank (RW)
Los Angeles: Lemieux, Brendan (LW)
Minnesota: Kähkönen, Kaapo (G)
Montreal: Price, Carey (G)
Nashville: Järnkrok, Calle (LW)
New Jersey: Merkley, Nick (RW)
N.Y. Islanders: Bailey, Josh (RW)
N.Y. Rangers: Gauthier, Julien (RW)
Ottawa: Tierney, Chris (C)
Philadelphia: Gostisbehere, Shayne (LD)
Pittsburgh: Pettersson, Marcus (LD)
San Jose: Donato, Ryan (LW)
St. Louis: Tarasenko, Vladimir (RW)
Tampa Bay: Foote, Cal (RD)
Toronto: McCann, Jared (LW)
Vancouver: Lind, Kole (RW)
Washington: Vanecek, Vitek (G)
Winnipeg: Appleton, Mason (RW)

Went probably too light on defencemen. Might take one of the Jets' d-men instead of Appleton. Probably went too heavy on right wingers and not heavy enough on centers, but there's not a ton of top end centers to choose from. Might take Henrique from Anaheim, although Volkov is interesting as well. Still well below the cap.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Captaincanada80

1. Skinner
2. Bobrovsky
3. OEL
4. Ladd
5. Karlsson
6. Eriksson
7. Seabrook
8. Valasic
9. Parise
10 Suter
11. Lucic
12. Neal
13. Duchene

shall we continue?

He’s actually got a worse contract than some of those guys, but your point remains.

I’d take Suter, Lucic, Neal, Seabrook (LTIR), Ericsson, Karlsson, over his.


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[Wood]

Voracek - Johansen - Tarasenko
McCann - Gourde - Donskoi
Donato - Domi - Bailey
Eakin - Byron - Hathaway
Extra: Grundstrom, Fischer, Gauthier, Lind

Giordano - Pettersson
Butcher - DeMelo
Zadarov - Stetcher
Klefbom on IR
Extra: Fleury, Lauzon, Bean

Bishop
Dreidger
Kahkonen
Forsberg

I could easily change my mind on half of them, but that looks like a better team than I expected. I'd also expect them to trade a handful of guys and I think they're going to be where Hamilton ends up

[Roof-Daddy]

Does anybody else really see Hamilton signing with Seattle? If he thinks they can be Vegas good it could be tempting plus it's not really a hockey mad type market where he'd be living in a fish bowl.

Same with any of the big free agents really. With what Vegas has done, plus looking at the players available, many of these guys might think Seattle has a shot at being a juggernaut right out of the gate.

Hall, Landeskog, Krejci, etc

[Weirdness]

What I'm struggling with when using CapFriendly's draft tool right now is actually having 20/30 players under contract for next season requirement. A lot of decent players are exposed that are UFA/RFA which kinda complicates things. Seattle might make a few "head-scratcher" moves just to meet this requirement. There's also no actual contract signing tool, so it just assumes the previous cap hit for any UFA/RFAs that you sign, which will likely end up being higher.



And from what I'm playing around with, I'm feeling its less and less likely Seattle picks Giordano. I'm feeling like all the chatter about the Flames needing to make a deal to keep Seattle from taking him is just Seattle bluffing: they really want Kylington but are really trying to convince the Flames its Giordano they want just so they get another asset or two.

[Strange Brew]

I just can’t buy that Seattle really wants Kylington. Strong likelihood he will be available on waivers again next season.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Weirdness

What I'm struggling with when using CapFriendly's draft tool right now is actually having 20/30 players under contract for next season requirement. A lot of decent players are exposed that are UFA/RFA which kinda complicates things. Seattle might make a few "head-scratcher" moves just to meet this requirement. There's also no actual contract signing tool, so it just assumes the previous cap hit for any UFA/RFAs that you sign, which will likely end up being higher.



And from what I'm playing around with, I'm feeling its less and less likely Seattle picks Giordano. I'm feeling like all the chatter about the Flames needing to make a deal to keep Seattle from taking him is just Seattle bluffing: they really want Kylington but are really trying to convince the Flames its Giordano they want just so they get another asset or two.

I didn't waste any of my picks on UFAs. Since The Kraken get first crack at UFAs, I went with guys under contract or pending RFAs. There are a decent number of pending RFAs that are arbitration eligible. Wonder if the Kraken will avoid some of those.

With Tampa I picked Foote, might as well leave them in cap hell. Expect Tampa will be paying heavily in this expansion draft.

[ricardodw]

I noticed that no one took Tanev from Pittsburgh the younger, faster, crazier of the Tanevs.

4 x 3.5 left on his contract He is Byron fast.... He is 4th in the league in hits over the last 3 years. He takes near Lady Byng amount of penalties and is a on the 1st line PK

There is a chance he might break down the way he plays but he is only in year 5 as a NHL player

He would force the Flames to play at a higher tempo

[sureLoss]

boom

https://twitter.com/user/status/1416873092413001729

Sources say there are significant concerns about Price’s health moving forward that may (or may not) deter the Kraken from selecting the Anahim Lake, British Columbia native. An MRI recently conducted by the Canadiens revealed a hip injury that could require surgery. The true extent of the injury is not yet known – and likely will not be known until later in the week, when Price travels to the United States to be seen by an expert. The results of the examination likely wouldn’t be available until Friday at the earliest, after Seattle selects its team on Wednesday.

Either way, at the very least, Price’s availability for the start of this season is in question. He could miss eight weeks. Or, Price could miss a significant portion or the entirety of the 2021-22 season. It’s too soon to say.

This is all part GM Marc Bergevin’s calculated risk in exposing Price. Either the Kraken will be willing to roll the dice with a $44.25 million gamble on Price’s health and the Habs will have $10.5 million in newfound cap space. Or Seattle will go in another direction, Allen will carry the ball for the first chunk of the season, and in a perfect scenario, Price will be ready to work in tandem with Allen on another playoff run.

Sources indicated it was Price’s idea to waive his “no-move” clause, knowing the uncertainty of his health. The belief is he did not want to see the Kraken to select Allen, himself being potentially unavailable to start the season, thus leaving the Canadiens in a tough spot to fill the void without both of their netminders. The Canadiens themselves waffled on what to do. Sources say Bergevin worked the phones well into Saturday afternoon trying to find a proper return for Allen, being ultimately deciding to play the card that Price left him in his back pocket.

Sneaky timing that the expert's examination results won't be available until after the expansion draft huh?

[Weirdness]

Originally Posted by Wood

Voracek - Johansen - Tarasenko
McCann - Gourde - Donskoi
Donato - Domi - Bailey
Eakin - Byron - Hathaway
Extra: Grundstrom, Fischer, Gauthier, Lind

Giordano - Pettersson
Butcher - DeMelo
Zadarov - Stetcher
Klefbom on IR
Extra: Fleury, Lauzon, Bean

Bishop
Dreidger
Kahkonen
Forsberg

I could easily change my mind on half of them, but that looks like a better team than I expected. I'd also expect them to trade a handful of guys and I think they're going to be where Hamilton ends up

I like the list. However when I plugged it in to the CapFriendly tool it shows that this roster is at $95.4M cap hit, which I don't this is allowed even during offseason. I always thought they would have to remain under the cap at all times, even if they will most assuredly make trades afterwards. I don't think CapFriendly factors Klefbom likely being on LTIR so there would be some savings there I think, but doesn't that get determined at the start of the season?



I'm thinking Bishop, Giordano and Tarasenko get swapped out for cheaper contracts.

[topfiverecords]

Breaking: Every single one of Montreal’s exposed players requires major surgery and will miss significant time next year. All of them are also allergic to coffee, redwoods and the ocean.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Locke

Especially when its almost a done deal that they're going to take Driedger from Florida.

You need a mid-range, mid-pay, steady partner for him. Not breaking the bank on older, expensive goaltenders.

There is a reason these guys are available. Nobody is throwing life-preservers here if they can avoid it. Vegas was lucky, they caught everyone off guard, now most of these guys know the drill.

I think Vegas doesn't get enough credit for putting together a great team that was greater than the sum of it's parts. They didn't just pick the biggest names, but they identified players that fit niches and had room to improve. This is why I don't think it's crazy if they take Kylington over Giordano. Did they take any players that they were likely to just flip at the trade deadline? Obviously their success prevented that from happening anyway, but looking at the players they picked, it looks like they had intentions to have them in the orgnaization.

The one exception is picking Connor Brickley from Carolina. I still don't get that one. Carolina sent a 5th round pick to select him, he was a pending UFA and Vegas didn't even attempt to sign him. They didn't see a single player on Carolina's list that was worth more than a 5th apparently. Here was their unprotected list:

Spoiler!

Forwards

Bryan Bickell (UFA)
Connor Brickley (UFA)
Patrick Brown (UFA)
Erik Karlsson (RFA)
Danny Kristo (UFA)
Jay McClement (UFA)
Andrew Miller
Andrej Nestrasil (RFA)
Joakim Nordstrom
Lee Stempniak
Brendan Woods (UFA)
Defensemen

Klas Dahlbeck
Dennis Robertson (UFA)
Philip Samuelsson (UFA)
Matt Tennyson (UFA)
Goaltenders

Daniel Altshuller (RFA)
Eddie Lack
Michael Leighton (UFA)
Cam Ward

How could none of those players be worth more than a 5th? McPhee did an amazing job, but I still don't get that one.

[Macman]

I also saw in a SN article earlier that Carey Price has a $11M signing bonus due this September, will Seattle want to pay for that along with his contract?
For that reason the Kraken may not pick Price.