Great post Envitro, that style of pistol shooting is something I've wanted to get into but I don't own or have a license yet so very unlikely moving forward.
It's really too bad some people will just never understand it.
Why Canada should ban the sale, ownership of handguns
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The government has finally moved to ban military-style assault rifles. Great. So now let's go to the next step, a complete and comprehensive ban on the sale and ownership of all handguns.
There is no conceivable reason why an ordinary person needs to own a handgun. No reason whatsoever.
There is reasonable evidence that Legally purchased Canadian guns are used in Crime and Hand guns are used for suicides. The question that needs more research how would substitution effect the effectiveness of such a ban.
I really hate how gun control proponents always start off with No one Needs X gun. It’s a terrible argument, there are very few needs so it leaves one open to many counter arguments.
The argument for Gun Control should be this policy is predicted to save X lives. The loss of people’s ability to own guns is a reasonable trade to make. Then you need to show why other policies that aren’t a ban are not working.
How many people die each year at the hands of illegal guns?
How many people die each year at the hands of legal guns?
How many people die from speeding-related accidents each year?
How many people die from illegal vehicle activity each year?
How many people die from legally acquired, alcohol-related activities each year?
I bet the last three are significantly bigger than both items 1 & 2....
How many people die each year at the hands of illegal guns?
How many people die each year at the hands of legal guns?
How many people die from speeding-related accidents each year?
How many people die from illegal vehicle activity each year?
How many people die from legally acquired, alcohol-related activities each year?
I bet the last three are significantly bigger than both items 1 & 2....
Probably...And?
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How many people die each year at the hands of illegal guns?
How many people die each year at the hands of legal guns?
How many people die from speeding-related accidents each year?
How many people die from illegal vehicle activity each year?
How many people die from legally acquired, alcohol-related activities each year?
I bet the last three are significantly bigger than both items 1 & 2....
And we continue to increase legislation to curb the last 3, almost every year. And the related deaths continue to decrease as a result...
So why wouldn't we be doing that for the first two?
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There is reasonable evidence that Legally purchased Canadian guns are used in Crime and Hand guns are used for suicides. The question that needs more research how would substitution effect the effectiveness of such a ban.
I really hate how gun control proponents always start off with No one Needs X gun. It’s a terrible argument, there are very few needs so it leaves one open to many counter arguments.
The argument for Gun Control should be this policy is predicted to save X lives. The loss of people’s ability to own guns is a reasonable trade to make. Then you need to show why other policies that aren’t a ban are not working.
I'm good with this, handguns are a problem, especially with gangs and other criminals because they're easy to conceal and they are effective weapons, and legal guns have been a problem when it comes to things like suicide.
Again the same issues come up, what is the government going to do to deal with cross border and port smuggling, I'd say that handguns are a bigger problem in this field then things like military assault rifles.
At the same time the talk is that the Federal Government isn't going to do a ban, they're going to leave this to the municipalities. I believe that's a bad strategy, we're going to get a mishmash of strategies across the country with confusing enforcement and regulation. On top of that you're going to pass the costs on to the municipalities and provinces in terms of legal costs and enforcement costs.
I don't have a problem with a handgun ban, or even a strong prohibition where it incredibly tough to buy a handgun as a hobby device or even a home defense device.
I have to see what the strategy is, is it a blanket federal plan, or are they going to shove it off on someone else in the name of political expediency?
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How many people die each year at the hands of illegal guns?
How many people die each year at the hands of legal guns?
How many people die from speeding-related accidents each year?
How many people die from illegal vehicle activity each year?
How many people die from legally acquired, alcohol-related activities each year?
I bet the last three are significantly bigger than both items 1 & 2....
If you assume for a moment that suicides are done with legally acquired firearms and accept that 30% of homicides are legal guns you get about 600 or so deaths a year from legal weapons.
So I read somewhere that with Canads recent banning that vintage war cannons technically also fall under the same category. Not sure if theres any truth to it or even if anyone owns a cannon but yeah, weird.
Unlike the 'assault weapons' ban, a handgun ban actually makes sense. Since they're actually used in crime occasionally.
Although some criticisms still apply, what's going to be done about illegal weapons smuggling and possession? That's still the much much bigger issue here.
If they do it at a municipal level, like they've talked about,then I have to laugh. That would be the most ridiculous half assed, half measure we've seen yet
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