[PGT] Flames 3, Canucks 0.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I preface this by saying I've been a huge fan of Backlund since he was drafted and that I'm not in this bizzare camp of posters who think he's not good (or that CGY isn't really deep).

However if Backlund is limited by injury in any way he should be sat. What's the point of depth if you don't use it? Play Bennett with Tkachuk and Frolik - that line is too vital to CGY as they are the shut down line.

If Backlund is having some mobility issues how is it wise that he's playing against the opponent's most dynamic players? If you have poor depth then maybe I can get behind the 'his 70% is better than other's 100%' arguments.

But that is not the case with this team. Use that bench you made all that effort to assemble.

Gaudreau Monahan Lindholm
Tkachuk Bennett Frolik
Mangiapane Ryan Rieder
Lucic Jankowski Czarnik

Let Backlund get right - don't risk him getting injured worse and don't put him in a situation where he can't thrive (until he's healthy and then we all know how good he is in the shut down role).

[Flash Walken]

Bennett got fourth line minutes last night.

I know that this bennett at centre thing has re-emerged as if it's something serious, but he played just 10 minutes last night in a game filled with penalties.

When he played 15 minutes the game before, the Flames lost. When he played less than 12 last night, the Flames won.

I don't think he's responsible for the loss in Colorado, I just think it's obvious that he is less effective playing more than 12 minutes a game, which is a necessity to play in the top 6.

[Beninho]

I’m taking a step back from being as invested as I have in the past during the regular season but #### I wanted that win so badly. I hate the Canucks with a passion


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[Jeff Lebowski]

Bennett doesn't get any special teams ice - so it's not surprising to me that his minutes were low. From what I recall he maintained his spot on Ryan's line which presumably is the third line. I also think Bennett should see some PP2 time.

[Toonage]

And when Peters shuffled the 2L he gave the spot to Mangiapane. Not Bennett. Might be telling?

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Toonage

And when Peters shuffled the 2L he gave the spot to Mangiapane. Not Bennett. Might be telling?

Mangiapane was more noticeable than Bennett early on. Perhaps the promotion to the second line was a reward for 88? I don’t see him staying there but who knows what Peters has planned...

[Flash Walken]

Considering Mangiapane got 8 minutes of icetime, I don't think he got the promotion because he had been impressive.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Bennett got fourth line minutes last night.

I know that this bennett at centre thing has re-emerged as if it's something serious, but he played just 10 minutes last night in a game filled with penalties.

When he played 15 minutes the game before, the Flames lost. When he played less than 12 last night, the Flames won.

I don't think he's responsible for the loss in Colorado, I just think it's obvious that he is less effective playing more than 12 minutes a game, which is a necessity to play in the top 6.

He was quite effective against Colorado, and set up Giordano’s goal. The logic you’re using is bizarre. None of the goals against were Bennett’s fault, and with more minutes he was the primary assist on one of the goals we did score.

From game to game, he played better and produced more when he played more, but you’re arguing that because the Flames lost, which was caused by errors made by players not named Bennett, that Bennett shouldn’t/can’t play more minutes?

I don’t think what you’re saying is obvious at all, and a real weird train of thought.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Bennett got fourth line minutes last night.

I know that this bennett at centre thing has re-emerged as if it's something serious, but he played just 10 minutes last night in a game filled with penalties.

When he played 15 minutes the game before, the Flames lost. When he played less than 12 last night, the Flames won.

I don't think he's responsible for the loss in Colorado, I just think it's obvious that he is less effective playing more than 12 minutes a game, which is a necessity to play in the top 6.

Bennett has looked good in both games ...

With ten powerplays in both and Bennett not playing special teams it's pretty hard for him and his line to find a groove.

Here is Sam Bennett's xGF% all of last year and the two games this year put into minute splits

Min	#     xGF	xGA	xGF%
5	3	0.39	0.34	53.4%
7.5	15	5.56	4.76	53.9%
10	34	15.5	14.5	51.7%
12.5	15	8.33	7.18	53.7%
15	6	4.69	3.74	55.6%

At his best when utilized more, but very consistent across the board.

[btimbit]

Loved Tkachuk on After Hours. Can't wait for him to be on Spittin' Chicclets again, he's such a good interview

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

I preface this by saying I've been a huge fan of Backlund since he was drafted and that I'm not in this bizzare camp of posters who think he's not good (or that CGY isn't really deep).

However if Backlund is limited by injury in any way he should be sat. What's the point of depth if you don't use it? Play Bennett with Tkachuk and Frolik - that line is too vital to CGY as they are the shut down line.

If Backlund is having some mobility issues how is it wise that he's playing against the opponent's most dynamic players? If you have poor depth then maybe I can get behind the 'his 70% is better than other's 100%' arguments.

But that is not the case with this team. Use that bench you made all that effort to assemble.

Gaudreau Monahan Lindholm
Tkachuk Bennett Frolik
Mangiapane Ryan Rieder
Lucic Jankowski Czarnik

Let Backlund get right - don't risk him getting injured worse and don't put him in a situation where he can't thrive (until he's healthy and then we all know how good he is in the shut down role).

Couldn't have said it better, I totally agree with this. How do you know what you have in Bennett if they won't give him a chance to play up there with all those guys. It is early in the season if Backlund is hurt probably good idea to give him time to recover.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

He was quite effective against Colorado, and set up Giordano’s goal. The logic you’re using is bizarre. None of the goals against were Bennett’s fault, and with more minutes he was the primary assist on one of the goals we did score.

From game to game, he played better and produced more when he played more, but you’re arguing that because the Flames lost, which was caused by errors made by players not named Bennett, that Bennett shouldn’t/can’t play more minutes?

I don’t think what you’re saying is obvious at all, and a real weird train of thought.

Over the entirety of his career up to this point I think Bennett has shown to be most effective playing 10-12 minutes a game.

Emotion, 'jam', skating, decision making, I think area all factors in keeping his minutes reduced for maximum effectiveness.

I think playing him up the lineup disrupts other lines.

I'm specifically saying he's not a negative factor in that loss to Colorado, I just think he plays better when his minutes are reduced and that has a positive impact on the rest of the team.

[tvp2003]

I’m sure someone can come up with a more creative meme:

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Over the entirety of his career up to this point I think Bennett has shown to be most effective playing 10-12 minutes a game.

Emotion, 'jam', skating, decision making, I think area all factors in keeping his minutes reduced for maximum effectiveness.

I think playing him up the lineup disrupts other lines.

I'm specifically saying he's not a negative factor in that loss to Colorado, I just think he plays better when his minutes are reduced and that has a positive impact on the rest of the team.

Not what the numbers say at all.

In fact they suggest you may get a pop from the guy if you found a way to get him into the 15 minute area on a regular basis.

[Manhattanboy]

Definitely need more Bennett.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Considering Mangiapane got 8 minutes of icetime, I don't think he got the promotion because he had been impressive.

Maybe you should actually listen to what the Coach has to say about it:

Originally Posted by Bill Peters

"I would have loved to have played him more. I think Mangi's really coming; he's a dynamic young player with a high ceiling. I think Mangi's going to be a really good player; he's going to show that to you here this year. Tonight—I haven't had a chance to pore over the event summary, but the minutes probably aren't where I would like them. I'd like to see him play more. We've got him on his off-side—that's something that, again, we'll have to discuss as coaches. I think he's a little more comfortable on the left, but he wants to play so he knows that if he's versitile he'll have a better opportunity to play higher up the lineup on the right side. [He is] a kid with a bright future and he is going to be a big part of what we do here this year."

[schteve_d]

Originally Posted by UKflames

Hamonic is a total warrior and deserves a hell of a lot more respect for what he brings to the ice each night. He blocks shots, stands up for players and take real punishment.

Agreed. One of my favourite moments from last nights game was when Hamonic blocked a shot that clearly hurt him and he was hobbling to the bench until he saw a teammate getting manhandled (can't remember who it was) and he instantly changed course and grabbed a 'Nuck; no hesitation. Absolute warrior. That's the mentality we need from guys like him.

[TheRealPepman]

BSD yesterday

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Bennett got fourth line minutes last night.

I know that this bennett at centre thing has re-emerged as if it's something serious, but he played just 10 minutes last night in a game filled with penalties.

When he played 15 minutes the game before, the Flames lost. When he played less than 12 last night, the Flames won.

I don't think he's responsible for the loss in Colorado, I just think it's obvious that he is less effective playing more than 12 minutes a game, which is a necessity to play in the top 6.

What a bizarre, weird, joke of a post

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Tkachuk is a great interview. This makes me wish there were more opportunities to see his personality. Also massive hearing him say what an important addition lucic was and how instantly he fit into the locker room. Great lesson for the corsi/stats only crowd imo

Jokes on you because Lucic has always had good corsi/analytical stats.