It's pretty in keeping with the comics though. She does become "Rescue" and don the iron suit. But I see what you mean if it is without context. Suddenly showing up with a suit can be confusing.
Except it wasn't sudden. First you have Pepper hulking out at the end of Iron Man 3 to protect Tony, but she's not comfortable with the whole superhero role. Then in Endgame there is very clear forshadowing with Tony's daughter playing with the helmet from the suit he made Pepper, which she didn't want to want to wear. Makes sense that in the final battle for the universe that she would finally relent and join the fight
And everyone complaining about the Fem-Avengers scene is so lame. Yes it was contrived, but it was all of a few seconds long and likely made millions of little girls around the world very happy. Let them enjoy that moment like the millions of adult nerds did when Cap lifted Mjolnir
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Except it wasn't sudden. First you have Pepper hulking out at the end of Iron Man 3 to protect Tony, but she's not comfortable with the whole superhero role. Then in Endgame there is very clear forshadowing with Tony's daughter playing with the helmet from the suit he made Pepper, which she didn't want to want to wear. Makes sense that in the final battle for the universe that she would finally relent and join the fight
And everyone complaining about the Fem-Avengers scene is so lame. Yes it was contrived, but it was all of a few seconds long and likely made millions of little girls around the world very happy. Let them enjoy that moment like the millions of adult nerds did when Cap lifted Mjolnir
The 25ish year old man/child next to me squealed in ecstasy in this moment and started clapping when this happened.
I realized that this movie means a lot to a lot of people and it is important that people have their moments, this can be a very special thing for them, and clearly it was, even if his actions maybe me feel a bit awkward and uncomfortable for him.
I will no more roll my eyes at this grown mans happiness at this movie than I will at the girl power moment that I bet lifted the hearts of young and old women alike who watched those moments.
I pray I can, as I get older, continue to find joy in such simple things the way that some people can in movies like this.
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Easily the worst part of the movie - I get it - women can be imaginary superheroes as well. That part was so blatantly pandering that it ruined the flow of the entire scene. It just felt unnecessary to me.
It was perfect in Infinity War, small and believable. Scarlet Witch, Scarlett Johansson and The Scarlet Wakandan taking on Proxima Midnight. Pretty over-the-top in End Game however
Beautifully handled in Infinity War. End Game should've had Spider-Man join female patrol for the laughs.
And everyone complaining about the Fem-Avengers scene is so lame. Yes it was contrived, but it was all of a few seconds long and likely made millions of little girls around the world very happy. Let them enjoy that moment like the millions of adult nerds did when Cap lifted Mjolnir
The amount of little girls on Calgarypuck might be zero, don't worry about this spoiler thread ruining the experience for them.
It better be. It’s literally a guy talking through the plot, point by point, for 8 straight minutes. With an annoying voice, annoying face and almost no original commentary or jokes.
I grew up a big fan of Marvel comic books, thought it was great when they started making high quality movies out of them and have enjoyed most movies in the MCU, but this really felt like jumping the shark. Didn't enjoy this one at all. It was all fan service and felt way overdone. Actually, the female avengers, if that's what people are calling that, was actually one of the parts most true to the spirit of the genre in my mind, because it was about showing an ideal to inspire people to imagine a better version of themselves. To me, that's central to what comics are about. The rest of the movie felt like it was missing that. It felt like very generic Hollywood action movie just using characters that are well known and loved. For some reason I feel most reminded of Last Action Hero and Armageddon when I think of this movie. It's like a mash up of those two with the MCU and Time Cop. Happy for people who enjoyed it, but not worth three hours to me.
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I really liked it and thought it was dramatically better than Infinity War — I was quite surprised to see lots of my friends and then people on here nitpicking it to death, but I guess that’s the movie culture now. I thought it utilized the ensemble quite a bit better and the time travel plots were a lot of fun, bringing in some characters and scenes I really wasn’t expecting.
It’s also a good testament to giving absolutely nothing away in the trailers. Expert marketing — there were so many great surprises that would’ve been easy to ruin with trailers, and would’ve really detracted from the experience.
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It better be. It’s literally a guy talking through the plot, point by point, for 8 straight minutes. With an annoying voice, annoying face and almost no original commentary or jokes.
That's the point. It's a pitch meeting, running through the film while pointing out all the lapses in logic and poking fun at various things by being extremely deadpan about everything that happens. It works quite well for a lot of the movies he covers. He also weaves in the lines "barely an inconvenience" and "that's tight!" in every pitch meeting.
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Gwyneth Paltrow in the Iron Man suit makes more sense to me now. I never finished watching Iron Man 3. It just wasn't doing it for me, so I never got through it and saw the part where she suited up. I was like, "who the hell is that, Michelle Pfeifer's character from Ant Man?".
Gwyneth Paltrow in the Iron Man suit makes more sense to me now. I never finished watching Iron Man 3. It just wasn't doing it for me, so I never got through it and saw the part where she suited up. I was like, "who the hell is that, Michelle Pfeifer's character from Ant Man?".
Well she never suited up fully, other than an Ironarm to use a blaster. She was injected with the extremis serum that gave people super strength and made them explode, beats the badguy down to save Tony. She doesn't like the whole hurting/killing people thing though which carries over to her not wanting to wear the suit that Tony makes for her, until the final battle
Well she never suited up fully, other than an Ironarm to use a blaster. She was injected with the extremis serum that gave people super strength and made them explode, beats the badguy down to save Tony. She doesn't like the whole hurting/killing people thing though which carries over to her not wanting to wear the suit that Tony makes for her, until the final battle
Tony also puts her in a suit when the house gets shot by missles, and she saves him from some falling concrete.
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Looks like you'll need one long before I will. May I suggest deflection king?
Thor is the God of Thunder, he's the King of Asgard, not the stupid surfer idiot they've turned him into.
Branagh got it right, Waititi ruined him.
That put me really off.
The rest of it was good, all things considered...and my daughter loved the grrl pwr scene.
Thor was the god of thunder, and the battle on the bridge at the end of Ragnarok is the most epic Thor has ever looked in the movies. But just examine what he's gone through over his arc. He loses both of his parents, his "indestructible" hammer, and his eye. He has to sacrifice his home planet turning all of his people into refugees, then he gets attacked by Thanos and gets his ass kicked, losing half of his people who were left and his brother. Then he tanks a star to create a weapon capable of killing Thanos, only he screws up the final blow and Thanos wins, snapping away half of his people AGAIN. He has utterly failed and has never felt so unworthy, 5 years later you get drunk fat Thor just trying to find an escape
Waititi didn't ruin Thor, he gave him depth that was sorely needed to put him in line with the other Avengers. He's supposed to be the God of Thunder and King of Asgard, but he doesn't want to be anymore and the whole scene with his mother was him finally coming to terms with that
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I think people need to start dissociating Marvel comics with Marvel movies. It's getting clearer and clearer as each movie is made that the 2 universes are only loosely associated with one another.
I think people need to start dissociating Marvel comics with Marvel movies. It's getting clearer and clearer as each movie is made that the 2 universes are only loosely associated with one another.
The problem with the comics is the characters never grow. You might get a small development arc contained within a series, but when that's done and a new series starts up then they get reverted back to the base heroes that everyone knows. You can't do that with the movies unless you go for a full reboot, which might eventually happen with the Marvel universe but it's a long way away
Things I disliked:
- Peter Quill on Earth and he doesn't even try to buy a new cassette in the prologue? A bit of a waste.
- The girl power scene purely for the suspension of disbelief. Could have been written a billion times more cohesively to get to that action shot instead of just coming across as contrived and cringey.
- Pretty much everything involving Carol Danvers. I didn't even dislike the CM movie but she was just so superfluous in this whole movie, every scene was about her being a Deus Ex Marysuechina.
- The five year time skip. Could have achieved much of the same with two or three years while making the epilogue more contained. About the only reason for a five year skip was to make Stark's daughter the right age to be adorable with the "I love you 3000" line. But in a movie featuring all kinds of time travel they could easily have had that scene play out somehow.
- Certain events of Civil War felt like they got brushed under the rug considering there's a five year gap between IW and EG.
- Doctor Strange suddenly underpowered AF. The best they could do for him was flood control?
- No Daisy Johnson.
Things I loved:
- Thor going for the head
- "I thought you were a Build-A-Bear" and "That chick with the antenna". Any scene with Rocket Raccoon, really.
- Ronin's swordfight.
- Any scene with Scott Lang. The quantum physics moment with Natasha and the time travel discussion with Banner
- Professor Hulk.
- Professor Hulk "Hulking out" in NYC 2012
- Hulk and the stairs
- Fat Thor
- Hawkeye vs Black Widow.
- Cap vs Cap
- Cap wielding Mjolnir
- Thor to Cap "You take the small one"
- AVENGERS ASSEMBLE. How many years did we wait for that one little phrase?
- Wanda vs Thanos
- I am Iron Man.
- Star Lord being in command of his ship.
Was it a great stand alone movie? No, and it didn't try to be. It was an epic finale to a long journey and it did what it set out to do. The minor blemishes might keep it from being perfect, but overall it has to be said that it really did live up to its own hype. It was a movie about the original six Avengers, and managed to be focused enough to give them all closure.
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I thought it was pretty good, nothing amazing but I also don't particularly like most of the Marvel characters.
It felt like the complications to the whole plan arise because Nebula doesn't share that she and Warmachine are about to be in the same time and location as 2014 Thanos, Nebula, and Gamora until its too late...? Like, why not reveal that ahead of time so they could plan accordingly?
Also they didn't consider just getting more Pym particles until it was an emergency? Seems like the first thing to do when you know you have enough for one trip each.
I enjoyed lots of the comedy, but found myself bored with a lot of the movie. Though again, probably because I don't care about most of the characters so the stakes were low for me.
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