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Old 12-19-2018, 10:41 PM   #141
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This is going to be a decision Berglund regrets in the long run.
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:49 AM   #142
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I'd take a punt on him for the rest of the so and put czanrik in the ahl. Would be solid #3C imo, allowing Ryan to move to the wing.
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:02 AM   #143
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:14 AM   #144
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Why didn’t luongo do this to get out of his van contract?
Ethics probably
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:20 AM   #145
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Ethics probably
Ethics? Or he knew he wasn't going to get a 12-year contract worth 64M guaranteed from another team.
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:21 AM   #146
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Ethics? Or he knew he wasn't going to get a 12-year contract worth 64M guaranteed from another team.
Lol, he definitely wasn't going to, which is why it likely never came up.

But I hope most players out there will pass at the opportunity to quit the team and sign elsewhere
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:22 AM   #147
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Anyone know why Buffalo allowed him to go? They could have essentially taken him off the books through suspension, and then tried to deal his rights.
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:29 AM   #148
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Anyone know why Buffalo allowed him to go? They could have essentially taken him off the books through suspension, and then tried to deal his rights.
I've been wondering the same thing

Do they just want the cloud gone, regardless of what transpires later?
Do they want to take the high-road and let him play where he wants?
Or... do they know that he'll have a hard time finding a new home, and are giving him the boot?
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:01 AM   #149
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His cap hit and term isn't great. Maybe they were happy to take the cap back including so they have a better chance at re-signing Skinner.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:06 AM   #150
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Anyone know why Buffalo allowed him to go? They could have essentially taken him off the books through suspension, and then tried to deal his rights.
Why go for the headache, and bad will, with a player who was on pace for 14 points. Especially if Buffalo "gets its way" and that Berglund comes back with a high cap-hit and poor attitude. Seemed like a reasonable situation just to cut ties instead of dragging this on for years.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:30 AM   #151
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From Friedman's 31 thoughts. Looks like another player also missed the deadline to submit a trade list relatively recently, but lucky for him it worked out.

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The forward was traded from St. Louis to Buffalo in the Ryan O’Reilly deal on July 1. The date is significant. Berglund had a full no-trade clause that ended the day before, June 30. He had the right to submit a partial no-trade beginning on Canada Day. For whatever reason, it was late.

Earlier this week, one player (who wished to remain nameless) said, a couple of years ago, he was informed by his team that he and his agent failed to submit their list. He said the GM told him that “we have no intention of trading you, but if something happens, we’re just letting you know we can do what we need to.”

He said they asked the NHLPA for help, but the deadline was the deadline. They’d missed it.

He wasn’t traded. And the next year, you bet the list was on time.

In Berglund’s case, the lapse opened the door. His relationship with the Sabres, tenuous at the start, never got better. He couldn’t stick in the lineup, and we know now that everyone involved was hiding the truth for some time.

We don’t know the full story, so it’s important to be respectful and careful. But, the key question is whether or not Berglund even wants to pursue a grievance. The NHLPA would want to protect his contract, too. Dotchin was all-in from the beginning.

There is not the same certainty with Berglund. It’s hard to explain why, because information is very tight. But, it’s nowhere near the guarantee you would think.

A lot more questions than answers.

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From Friedman's 31 thoughts. Looks like another player also missed the deadline to submit a trade list relatively recently, but lucky for him it worked out.
Didn't Burke say this morning that this was a Flames player that missed the deadline?
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:46 AM   #153
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What happened? Something beyond not wanted to play it sounds like.
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Old 12-20-2018, 02:29 PM   #154
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Didn't Burke say this morning that this was a Flames player that missed the deadline?
Yeah, Burke said there was a player that did not submit his list and the Flames went to the NHL to clarify if the list wasn't submitted if that player could be traded anywhere. NHL agreed with the Flames. The player was never traded. If I had to put two and two together, my guess would be Wideman.
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Yeah, Burke said there was a player that did not submit his list and the Flames went to the NHL to clarify if the list wasn't submitted if that player could be traded anywhere. NHL agreed with the Flames. The player was never traded. If I had to put two and two together, my guess would be Wideman.
Couldn't have been Wideman. He had full protection for his entire contract.
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Old 12-20-2018, 02:39 PM   #156
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Could've been Brodie.

Limited ntc.
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Old 12-20-2018, 03:00 PM   #157
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List of Flames who had modified NTCs during Burke's tenure (I think I got all of them):

Raymond
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Brodie
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I am guessing it was Stajan.

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Old 12-20-2018, 03:27 PM   #158
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List of Flames who had modified NTCs during Burke's tenure (I think I got all of them):

Raymond
Stajan
Brodie
Frolik
Stone
Cammalleri

I am guessing it was Stajan.
If it was stajan, that would surprise me. He's reppes by Pat Morris, right? Pretty big name agency to miss that.
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Old 12-20-2018, 03:30 PM   #159
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Why go for the headache, and bad will, with a player who was on pace for 14 points. Especially if Buffalo "gets its way" and that Berglund comes back with a high cap-hit and poor attitude. Seemed like a reasonable situation just to cut ties instead of dragging this on for years.
To retain the ability to trade him and get something out of it.

I guess now they officially can go for a UFA if they're in the market.
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If it was stajan, that would surprise me. He's reppes by Pat Morris, right? Pretty big name agency to miss that.
My bet is on Cammy. That trade deadline reaked of something other than not getting the right offer.
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