[News] Francis: Flames admit they aren't done adding. Tkachuk RW experiment this preseason.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by gamesaver

So... it begins. My friend is a friend with someone who has played under Peters. Rumour is Canes players were thrilled when he was fired. His lineup management is total chaos, swaping lines all the time, juggling with players almost every game. Lindholm is said to have cold relations with our coach because of that. One time he was at center, the other at wing, going up and down the lineup without any pattern. Peters said after the trade Lindholm is versatile, well, I guess he doesnt like to be. This sounds like a total counterpart of GG, except using the same system...

GG came under fire for being stubborn and never changing his lineups. So Peters is just like GG, except the opposite.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by SebC

If you have 45 seconds left in a game where you're down by one, it's nice if your best three scorers have played together before.

I would expect they'd have lots of pp time together regardless which 5v5 line they were on

[sureLoss]

per Friedman's latest 31 thoughts, Tobias Rieder will not be qualified.

Flames were rumored to have interest at the trade deadline

[CroFlames]

Not sure why they waited so long to try Tkachuk on the first line.



Oh yeah, GG. Thankfully that debacle is over.

[Toonage]

Also hints at interest in Jason Zucker (well, all the western Canadian teams are hinted at)

[Drunk Uncle]

Originally Posted by gamesaver

Well I regret that i even posted it here now. As I said, its just a rumour, coming from someone who has played under him and is not anymore in the league. He can be pissed at Peters for whatever reason. HE just said the moment when you see him start experimenting with his lineup, you are done, because he is never finished.

I think a lot of coaches can be guilty of mashing the lines too much and some can be guilty of not doing it enough. It is clear from his past that Peters likes to tinker with the line-up a lot. The key is the right balance which can be extremely hard to figure out especially when your team is losing.

That is why you hire an Associate coach with 10 years of experience with a specific skill set that involves line-up adjustments. This adds balance to a coach that constantly wants to tinker.

I suspect this will be less of an issue with the Flames coaching staff than it was in Carolina.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by gamesaver

So... it begins. My friend is a friend with someone who has played under Peters. Rumour is Canes players were thrilled when he was fired. His lineup management is total chaos, swaping lines all the time, juggling with players almost every game. Lindholm is said to have cold relations with our coach because of that. One time he was at center, the other at wing, going up and down the lineup without any pattern. Peters said after the trade Lindholm is versatile, well, I guess he doesnt like to be. This sounds like a total counterpart of GG, except using the same system... Well, if this is true, and i hope its not, we can be expecting another disappointning season.

Nice, a coach that adjusts on the fly and juggles the lines...about time

[_Q_]

Why would the Flames trade for a player that doesn't get along with the new coach? Either that friend of a friend story is BS or the management team is incompetent (not out of the realm of possibility).

[heep223]

Honestly I think Perron would be a great fit. The guy is a dick...the Flames need that.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Why would the Flames trade for a player that doesn't get along with the new coach? Either that friend of a friend story is BS or the management team is incompetent (not out of the realm of possibility).

Lindholm probably was versatile and the coach liked him but Lindholn wanted to be with more offensive players.

Probably similar to Backlunds situation where he gets all the dog #### minutes and before Tkachuk was stuck with lesser players. He was good in that role but it wasn't ideal for him as a player.

[Zevo]

So whose this player. Name your source, if the guy isn't in the league anymore then it shouldn't matter. Sounds like bullspit to me.

[Classic_Sniper]

I'm not sold on the idea of playing Tkachuk on the 1st line. If we do that, we'll be even more of a 1 line team than we already are. This team needs to find depth and balance fast if we ever want to be an elite team.

The playoffs seem to always show it, one line teams get exposed and are eliminated quickly and the teams with the most depth seem to always go on long runs. I'd keep Tkachuk on Backlund's line just so we don't rely on 1 line to try to win us every game like this past season.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Not sure why they waited so long to try Tkachuk on the first line...

Probably because the first line scores with anyone on it, and Tkachuk has been deemed more valuable as a second-line scoring threat. Crazy stuff.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

I'm not sold on the idea of playing Tkachuk on the 1st line. If we do that, we'll be even more of a 1 line team than we already are. This team needs to find depth and balance fast if we ever want to be an elite team.

The playoffs seem to always show it, one line teams get exposed and are eliminated quickly and the teams with the most depth seem to always go on long runs. I'd keep Tkachuk on Backlund's line just so we don't rely on 1 line to try to win us every game like this past season.

Gaudreau - Monahan - New RW
Bennett - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Mangiapane - Shore - Lazar

Looks pretty balanced.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by heep223

Honestly I think Perron would be a great fit. The guy is a dick...the Flames need that.

Plus he probably hates Edmonton, which we need more of.

Oh, and ~50ish point wingers are nice.

[Makarov]

I would like to see:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Bennett - Jankowski - Tkachuk
Frolik - Backlund - New RW
Dube - Shore - Brouwer

[rotten42]

Can we stop having threads that say {News} and then Francis's name behind it. The two don't go together.

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by rotten42

Can we stop having threads that say {News} and then Francis's name behind it. The two don't go together.

This deserves its own thread.

[BigErnSalute_16]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

I'm not sold on the idea of playing Tkachuk on the 1st line. If we do that, we'll be even more of a 1 line team than we already are. This team needs to find depth and balance fast if we ever want to be an elite team.

The playoffs seem to always show it, one line teams get exposed and are eliminated quickly and the teams with the most depth seem to always go on long runs. I'd keep Tkachuk on Backlund's line just so we don't rely on 1 line to try to win us every game like this past season.

Agree. I feel like most of us believe Tkachuk can drive a line by himself, so keeping that in mind I think the most logical solution would be to keep backs and fro together as a "third" line/ shutdown line with someone like janko probably becasue we know that backlund produces regardless of situation and linemates. Then let Tkachuk, Bennett, and Lindholm create the "second" line that takes the easiest assignments and is counted on to produce.

Then for the same reason as moving backlund down you can fill in almost anyone on the top line and they will contribute. Even if it is Foo or Mangiapane or someone like Perron. If thats done then we should have three lines that are producing consistently plus withshore anchoring the fourth finally playing with some speed and skill (probably Lazar and Mangiapane) that line should produce too.

I think Shore will surprise a lot of fans with how much he creates, regardless of if it turns into points or not.

[Split98]

I'm hoping we stay away from a guy that was benched in the SCF.

I'm also hoping that Peter's line-juggling comes with stability in pairs. Someone that he's describing as versatile probably won't be one of the staple pairs, but would roam between the lines where needed. I can see 6 players having some stability, and the rest of the roster being given nightly opportunities to matchup against the opposition. I like the theory, but I can see someone like Lindholm (likely the roamer) finding it tiresome to be moved around a bunch.

Time will tell if this method gives us great matchups against different opposition, or constant chemistry issues.