I was geared up for this epic superhero movie with huge stakes and then they threw it all away with the ending by "killing" characters who I just know aren't really dead. Spider-Man and Black Panther? Seriously? They have, what, four more upcoming movies planned between the two of them?
The only time I felt any real emotional heft was when Tony was stabbed. I was thinking -- "man, he's gonna die, this is a huge moment..." -- and then he just didn't. If Tony or Cap or Thor or any of the original characters had died instead of the new guys, it would've been much more resonant to me, because, oh, maybe they're turning the page. Instead, I know it's all a fakeout, that these characters will be back.
That being said, I truly loved Josh Brolin's performance as Thanos. Paul Bettany did a good job as Vision, too, and I appreciated that his thing with Scarlet Witch was fleshed out in this one. Wanted to see more of Cap and his gang, but I figure that'll come in the next one. I sure hope Hawkeye comes back so they can truly reunite the full OG lineup, which would be totally rad.
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I was geared up for this epic superhero movie with huge stakes and then they threw it all away with the ending by "killing" characters who I just know aren't really dead. Spider-Man and Black Panther? Seriously? They have, what, four more upcoming movies planned between the two of them?
The only time I felt any real emotional heft was when Tony was stabbed. I was thinking -- "man, he's gonna die, this is a huge moment..." -- and then he just didn't. If Tony or Cap or Thor or any of the original characters had died instead of the new guys, it would've been much more resonant to me, because, oh, maybe they're turning the page. Instead, I know it's all a fakeout, that these characters will be back.
That being said, I truly loved Josh Brolin's performance as Thanos. Paul Bettany did a good job as Vision, too, and I appreciated that his thing with Scarlet Witch was fleshed out in this one. Wanted to see more of Cap and his gang, but I figure that'll come in the next one. I sure hope Hawkeye comes back so they can truly reunite the full OG lineup, which would be totally rad.
It was deliberate to have all of the newer heroes disappear and be left with the original Avengers lineup to try and set things right, and it's probably safe to say that not all of them will make it through A4. And Hawkeye is already confirmed for A4, along with Ant-Man
I was geared up for this epic superhero movie with huge stakes and then they threw it all away with the ending by "killing" characters who I just know aren't really dead. Spider-Man and Black Panther? Seriously? They have, what, four more upcoming movies planned between the two of them?
The only time I felt any real emotional heft was when Tony was stabbed. I was thinking -- "man, he's gonna die, this is a huge moment..." -- and then he just didn't. If Tony or Cap or Thor or any of the original characters had died instead of the new guys, it would've been much more resonant to me, because, oh, maybe they're turning the page. Instead, I know it's all a fakeout, that these characters will be back.
That being said, I truly loved Josh Brolin's performance as Thanos. Paul Bettany did a good job as Vision, too, and I appreciated that his thing with Scarlet Witch was fleshed out in this one. Wanted to see more of Cap and his gang, but I figure that'll come in the next one. I sure hope Hawkeye comes back so they can truly reunite the full OG lineup, which would be totally rad.
You do realize its part one of two... even if they don't market that as such.
You do realize its part one of two... even if they don't market that as such.
That an endorsement of his point not a rebuttle.
Tts a legitimate complaint that lowers the intensity of the ending by knowing there is a part 2. It was a marketing triumph to convince people (myself included) that Avengers 4 may not be entirely focused on the Infinity Gauntlet.
If you go into any comic book media expecting any death to last you will be disappointed, Marvels long term view of continuity almost certainly means they will leave an out to reintroduce a character anywhere they can.
Infinity Gauntlet was the first Trade Paper Back comic I ever owned and I still love it. The movie touched on all the things I loved about the TPB and the new elements that tied all the MCU movies together were fantastic.
Thanos stole the film for me. IMO he's the best comic movie villain we've seen, only because he had the a great backstory. Ledger's Joker iss amazing for the acting but I never figured out his motivation.
Infinity Gauntlet was the first Trade Paper Back comic I ever owned and I still love it. The movie touched on all the things I loved about the TPB and the new elements that tied all the MCU movies together were fantastic.
Thanos stole the film for me. IMO he's the best comic movie villain we've seen, only because he had the a great backstory. Ledger's Joker iss amazing for the acting but I never figured out his motivation.
You weren’t supposed to figure out Joker’s motivation.
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You weren’t supposed to figure out Joker’s motivation.
I think that's why he was tougher to like as a villain. He was a force of nature without a levels of personality. Don't get me wrong, he was great. I just liked Thanos better.
Magneto has been great too. Both Fassbender and McKellen. Though like the comics, he's a bit of a rollercoaster in how his personality is portrayed. One moment he's a genocidal maniac, the next he's teaching kids. Though you could say the same about Wolverine I guess.
Xmen series sucked hated them. 1st villain-Magneto, 2nd villain-magneto,3rd villain-Magneto with Phoenix, 4th villain-Sebastion Shaw and Magneto, 5th villain-Trask then Magneto, 6th villain-Apocalypse and Magneto as a Horseman. I cant wait for Marvel to have this property back. Singer has ruined the Xmen.
I think that's why he was tougher to like as a villain. He was a force of nature without a levels of personality. Don't get me wrong, he was great. I just liked Thanos better.
Magneto has been great too. Both Fassbender and McKellen. Though like the comics, he's a bit of a rollercoaster in how his personality is portrayed. One moment he's a genocidal maniac, the next he's teaching kids. Though you could say the same about Wolverine I guess.
I think the Joker works precisely because he follows his motivation which is chaos. He doesn't break that character for Power, loyalty, love, etc. Good Villains actions flow from underlying character traits/flaws that they remain true to that informs their actions. There actions need to make sense given their goals and time needs to be spent developing why these traits and goals make sense.
Its tough to put screen time into developing these characters when you kill them at the end of the movie. So that's where Marvel having a fully introduced roster is able to spend time on Villains.
I think the Joker works precisely because he follows his motivation which is chaos. He doesn't break that character for Power, loyalty, love, etc. Good Villains actions flow from underlying character traits/flaws that they remain true to that informs their actions. There actions need to make sense given their goals and time needs to be spent developing why these traits and goals make sense.
Its tough to put screen time into developing these characters when you kill them at the end of the movie. So that's where Marvel having a fully introduced roster is able to spend time on Villains.
The fun of the joker wasn't in figuring out his motivation as much as figuring out how a person would become such an agent of chaos.
What would make a person flip like that.
Beyond the fact that he classified himself as a dog chasing a car, he was really the only guy involved that was a meticulous planner.
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Finally saw it last night - didn't feel bad when so many characters died, as surely most of them will come back (for one reason - each Marvel movie makes $1 Billion +). I thought Tony would be the one to die, as I thought RDJ wanted out of the franchise.
Black Panther can't die, but T'Challa can. Another can take the mantle (Shuri?) until he is resurrected.
I think this was the best Marvel movie so far - before I talk about my favorite moments, here are my burning questions:
I'm not sure they succeeded in humanizing Thanos. If his real objective was to overcome Malthusian theory, there has to be other alternatives that are better than murdering half the sentient beings in the universe. Assuming his power is near infinite, could he not:
Create more resources, or new universes.
Enforce a population cap (by law or by biological means) - mothers can only only have one child each.
Enforce strict environmental laws.
In a vast universe are there not more powerful aliens and gods that could oppose him? Why is it most of his opponents are from Earth? Wouldn't Thanos also know the 14 million possible time streams, and realize what Strange is up to?
One thing the comic touches on, and this isn't a spoiler or "book talk" really, is that the Gauntlet is only as powerful/useful as the mind of the person using it. If the person isn't imaginative or creative they're still limited in their ability to wield the Gauntlet.
So if Thanos has had this single-minded purpose of killing half the universe to set things in balance, that's what he's going to do.
He's obviously not right in the head if killing half the universe is even an option for him. So trying to suggest would want a single-child law across the universe is ridiculous.
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One thing the comic touches on, and this isn't a spoiler or "book talk" really, is that the Gauntlet is only as powerful/useful as the mind of the person using it. If the person isn't imaginative or creative they're still limited in their ability to wield the Gauntlet.
So if Thanos has had this single-minded purpose of killing half the universe to set things in balance, that's what he's going to do.
He's obviously not right in the head if killing half the universe is even an option for him. So trying to suggest would want a single-child law across the universe is ridiculous.
Yeah, that's exactly it, he's the "Mad" Titan. As much as he is presented as logical and calculating he also likes to do things in ways that create as much suffering as possible. The way he treated his daughters was horrific, but that was his version of love. The way he killed the other dwarves and destroyed Eltri's hands was totally unnecessary to his goal. Despite the fact that Thanos is the star of the film, he's still downright evil.
The comics use of lady death does add another layer to his character. Despite making him subservient, it provides another level of "logic" to his motivations. But once again, I don't think her character would have worked on screen.
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Finally saw it last night - didn't feel bad when so many characters died, as surely most of them will come back (for one reason - each Marvel movie makes $1 Billion +). I thought Tony would be the one to die, as I thought RDJ wanted out of the franchise.
Black Panther can't die, but T'Challa can. Another can take the mantle (Shuri?) until he is resurrected.
I think this was the best Marvel movie so far - before I talk about my favorite moments, here are my burning questions:
I'm not sure they succeeded in humanizing Thanos. If his real objective was to overcome Malthusian theory, there has to be other alternatives that are better than murdering half the sentient beings in the universe. Assuming his power is near infinite, could he not:
Create more resources, or new universes.
Enforce a population cap (by law or by biological means) - mothers can only only have one child each.
Enforce strict environmental laws.
In a vast universe are there not more powerful aliens and gods that could oppose him? Why is it most of his opponents are from Earth? Wouldn't Thanos also know the 14 million possible time streams, and realize what Strange is up to?
Really he just needs to use the gauntlet to implement a Carbon Tax. All of the universes problems would be solved.
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Looked pretty good to me.
