03-15-2018, 07:33 PM
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#141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
Why is everyone so high on Shore ? He had he value of a conditional 7th and hasn’t done a thing in the few games he played . Is it just because he’s new and we haven’t seen him be as useless as our other bottom 6 yet !
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I remember Shore in his time in L.A. Solid center at both ends of the ice, and he can create some offense as well. I had a solid opinion of him before the deal. I don't think we have a whole lot of other options at center ice anytime soon. Maybe Dillon Dube, but I think he projects better at the wing in the NHL. Mangiapane is a winger, and there's not a lot else in the system after that.
You could also put Lazar at center, but I think he's a better winger because it allows him to use his speed.
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03-15-2018, 07:43 PM
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#142
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
I remember Shore in his time in L.A. Solid center at both ends of the ice, and he can create some offense as well. I had a solid opinion of him before the deal. I don't think we have a whole lot of other options at center ice anytime soon. Maybe Dillon Dube, but I think he projects better at the wing in the NHL. Mangiapane is a winger, and there's not a lot else in the system after that.
You could also put Lazar at center, but I think he's a better winger because it allows him to use his speed.
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Linus Lindstrom got my vote as the Darkhorse to steal a spot.
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03-15-2018, 08:42 PM
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#143
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Franchise Player
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Why? It's a waste of a spot for someone better on the fourth line. It's time to move on after his contract is over.
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03-15-2018, 08:45 PM
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#144
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by crdr
Linus Lindstrom got my vote as the Darkhorse to steal a spot.
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Is Linus Lindstrom actually having a good enough season to quantify this thought? Im gonna go look.
EDIT: Kind of a meh stat line from eliteprospects. Likely under used in a 4th line role with Skefelta. WJC wasnt that inspiring as he was dropped from the top line and then the swedes got hot.
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03-15-2018, 08:54 PM
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#145
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Is Linus Lindstrom actually having a good enough season to quantify this thought? Im gonna go look.
EDIT: Kind of a meh stat line from eliteprospects. Likely under used in a 4th line role with Skefelta. WJC wasnt that inspiring as he was dropped from the top line and then the swedes got hot.
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Linus is a two way center. When things get hot, pure scorers get more ice time.
Lazar is on the team. Why not Linus? Take a look at Mikael Backlund's early numbers.
It's not all about points production in Europe.
Last edited by crdr; 03-15-2018 at 08:58 PM.
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03-15-2018, 09:01 PM
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#146
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crdr
Lazar is on the team. Why not Linus? Similar players.
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Hmmm, disagree. Lazar produced at every level of hockey up until his Mono season. then he fell off a cliff.
Lindstrom hasn't really done a lot in europe.
Im not saying Lindstrom sucks. But as a 19/20 year old this season he should be doing better than he is. It really appears he needs more development time Flames won't likely be putting him ahead of Shore on the old depth chart come training camp. Also, RHS seems to be of great value to Calgary. Having a good 4th line RHS who can take defensive zone faceoffs is a nice toy to have, and the PK as well. Which Shore is proficient at.
honestly, I truly believe Shore is locked in at 4th C next year. the fact they got him for pretty much free means nothing.
EDIT: and to further this, How does Lindstrom make the team over the likes of Dube or Ruzika? He doesn't.. Dube would be a 4th line masterpiece.
So on the center ice depth chart i'd go
1.Monahan
2a Backlund
2b Janko
4, Shore, Lazar, Bennett
Developing:
5. Dube
6. Ruzicka
7. Linstrom.
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Last edited by dammage79; 03-15-2018 at 09:05 PM.
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03-15-2018, 09:03 PM
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#147
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Hmmm, disagree. Lazar produced at every level of hockey up until his Mono season. then he fell off a cliff.
Lindstrom hasn't really done a lot in europe.
Im not saying Lindstrom sucks. But as a 19/20 year old this season he should be doing better than he is. Flames won't likely be putting him ahead of Shore on the old depth chart come training camp. Also, RHS seems to be of great value to Calgary. Having a good 4th line RHS who can take defensive zone faceoffs is a nice toy to have, and the PK as well. Which Shore is proficient at.
honestly, I truly believe Shore is locked in at 4th C next year. the fact they got him for pretty much free means nothing.
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Making a World Junior Team is not an easy thing to do. Being drafted by an NHL team is even harder.
I'm putting out there that he's a Darkhorse... It's a cinch to call obvious locks. Which I don't believe Shore is a "Shoe-In" either.
Last edited by crdr; 03-15-2018 at 09:06 PM.
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03-15-2018, 09:07 PM
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#148
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by crdr
Making a World Junior Team is not an easy thing to do. Being drafted by an NHL team is not an easy thing.
What is this place?
I said he's a Darkhorse... It's easy to call obvious locks.
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I asked what was there to quantify your opinion and you gave me "Lazar is on the team why not linstrom?"
I then looked into it as I love all things flames prospects. He's not even a darkhorse IMO. Thats all I'm saying.
No one ever said Linstrom didn't earn his places. All I said was it looks on paper like he needs to develop more.
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03-15-2018, 09:10 PM
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#149
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Join Date: Jun 2015
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Originally Posted by dammage79
I asked what was there to quantify your opinion and you gave me "Lazar is on the team why not linstrom?"
I then looked into it as I love all things flames prospects. He's not even a darkhorse IMO. Thats all I'm saying.
No one ever said Linstrom didn't earn his places. All I said was it looks on paper like he needs to develop more.
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Lazar is a character player. Who hasn't had a strong NHL career so far by pure numbers and he has an NHL contract. What you're saying is that Linus hasn't had any success. Lazar hasn't either and they both have WJ Finals experience which you seem to discount.
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03-15-2018, 09:16 PM
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#150
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crdr
Lazar is a character player. Who hasn't had a strong NHL career so far by pure numbers and he has an NHL contract. What you're saying is that Linus hasn't had any success. Lazar hasn't either and they both have WJ Finals experience which you seem to discount.
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What? I literally said he produced at every level until he hit the NHL. Then he fell off a cliff, I literally said that.
And who is discounting WJC? I'm not, Lazar did his job, Linstrom did not take grasp of his opportunity and got bumped down to a lesser role. How am I discounting anything?
Anywho, You have Linstrom as a dakrhorse. Cool beans.
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03-15-2018, 09:19 PM
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#151
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Join Date: Jun 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
What? I literally said he produced at every level until he hit the NHL. Then he fell off a cliff, I literally said that.
And who is discounting WJC? I'm not, Lazar did his job, Linstrom did not take grasp of his opportunity and got bumped down to a lesser role. How am I discounting anything?
Anywho, You have Linstrom as a dakrhorse. Cool beans.
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Yes, poor performance in the NHL. The only thing that counts. And he has an NHL contract. Anything can happen. His smile is infectious. 
PS: Even Wayne Gretzky was sat when things got tough...
Last edited by crdr; 03-15-2018 at 09:31 PM.
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03-15-2018, 11:22 PM
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#152
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#1 Goaltender
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03-15-2018, 11:23 PM
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#153
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Originally Posted by Brick
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Yes.
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03-16-2018, 12:31 AM
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#154
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2011
Location: in the belly of the beast.
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Originally Posted by crdr
Yes.
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03-16-2018, 12:41 AM
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#155
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Join Date: Jun 2015
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Originally Posted by trublmaker
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C'mon!
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03-16-2018, 12:45 AM
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#156
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2017
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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03-16-2018, 01:01 AM
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#157
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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If I owned an NHL team, Matt Stajan could have a job in my organization any time. That job just wouldn't require him to be on the ice.
It's time to move on from Matt Stajan the hockey player. Matt Stajan the person can stay in a different role.
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03-16-2018, 05:13 AM
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#158
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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I like Stajan and he is still a suitable 4th line centre but it is probably time to move on. That said I wouldn't have a problem with him as a depth player if he was willing to take close to minimum and spend time in the AHL.
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03-16-2018, 09:04 AM
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#159
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h
Why is everyone so high on Shore ? He had he value of a conditional 7th and hasn’t done a thing in the few games he played . Is it just because he’s new and we haven’t seen him be as useless as our other bottom 6 yet !
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Remember when Jokipakka was the long term #4 defenseman because he looked competent in 18 of our end of the 2016 season duster games.
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03-16-2018, 09:10 AM
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#160
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Franchise Player
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Your bottom 6 has to be good enough to move up into the top-6 without dragging the team down. It is not good enough not just not be a disaster in your 9 minutes of ice time.
Right now Jankowski, Bennett, Versteeg and Ferland are bottom 6 guys that can play in the top 6 and not be obviously over matched.
Before you go on how Ferland is top-6....if he plays with Bennett and Jankowski it does not make them a top-6 line.
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