[PGT] The Flames didn't win

[Karl]

Can't understand why this team is very good to fine on the road but not at home. Unbelievable.

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

I'm not defending Gulutzan as a coach overall, but why is it his responsibility to get the team ready to start fast? These guys are fighting for a ####ing playoff spot, what more motivation do they need? These are men, they need to all be personally responsible for their own effort from start to finish.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

I found the guys on 960 and the coaches were way too full of excuses. Yeah they outplayed them overall, but it was mostly after they gave them the game. The Flames were low on compete, intensity, and execution, and gave them a 4-1 lead. Then they couldn’t mount any sort of comeback in spite of the Islanders doing very little to stop them.

Just another woefully uninspired and unprepared game from a team that should be fighting for its playoff life in front of its fans that they have let down all season. Dismal.

As I was sitting in the Dome tonight, the team solidifying my decision to relinquish my tickets next season, I realized something even worse. I have been bringing my kids to several games this year, wanting them to become fans as well. But instead of the games being exciting and riveting (win or lose isn’t really that important, honestly), it is mostly about having treats, and me trying to make things interesting and fun in spite of what is going on in the game.

They are making it hard for me to stay a die hard fan, and the teams play is preventing my kids from becoming hard core fans. I’ll stay with them team, certainly as soon as they give me something to cheer about again. I’m worried I’ve lost the chance to get my kids hooked.

this makes me sad

[UK flame]

Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess

I'm not defending Gulutzan as a coach overall, but why is it his responsibility to get the team ready to start fast? These guys are fighting for a ####ing playoff spot, what more motivation do they need? These are men, they need to all be personally responsible for their own effort from start to finish.

If you've ever had a bad manager it's easy to know how you can become demoralised even doing a job you love.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Sure, I understand the odds aren't good but things can change so fast. Look how they did in the last 7 days. Flames were dead and buried after that NYR loss but after 5/6 points, some help on the OOT and they're back in it.


And ANA has one game in hand and a game Vs CGY left. Only two Points up and flames have the tie breaker.

Flames don't play the bottom feeders two times left this season. That is who Calgary beat with help from OOT. We play ARZ × 2 yes are bottom feeders but with the way this team has played over the last month is 50/50 . Edm ×2 I would include but Calgary can't put in a decent effort in against . After that its SJS × 2, CBJ , ANA , WGP, LAK and VGK × 2

You can see why fans have severe doubts .

[crapshoot]

Originally Posted by UK flame

If you've ever had a bad manager it's easy to know how you can become demoralised even doing a job you love.

I don't think the players hate him or think he's a particularily bad coach or anything though. I actually think he is well liked in the room. He comes across as a pretty humble, soft-spoken and nice guy, and I bet the players feel respected by him. That said, Gulutzans coaching has a whole lot of flaws, and surely the players, at least a bunch of them feel that way too.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Doesn't sound bad on paper.

I don't think you expect guys like Gaudreau to block shots and grind but I do think a couple of important guys on the back end aren't exactly the "do anything to win" types.

Why is that??

Every othe top talen in the NHL does it . McDavid, Crosby , Malkin, Taveres.......

Is it because he is a small player? St loius did ..Fluery did.. Gerbe did ..Byron does it .. Gallagher you name namr it another small player has done it.

The one thing that drives me nuts about Gaudreau is the way he shys away from shots and contact . He is pushed of the puck waaayytto easy.

I know its hard to argue his flaws when he racks up points but it is also pretty easy to neutralize him if the team just takes the body instard of trying to match his foot speed.


The point being is no player on a team should be allowed the exception of not blockimg shots or being physical.

[calgarywinning]

Gulutzans' problem is he's just one step behind the coaching plays all the time. Jumbled, with as much time at the helm as he has had. See yah!

I've been to too many home games with 50+ shots on net and nothing to show. Poor power plays. Team has skill but they don't have that buy in, fight to the nail factor to use it to do better.

Also, at this time, after the rebuilding and Treliving going all in it's time for the team to string wins together. When they don't changes should be made in advance... not a post humous adventure. This team only had one notable win streak this season.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by crapshoot

I don't think the players hate him or think he's a particularily bad coach or anything though. I actually think he is well liked in the room. He comes across as a pretty humble, soft-spoken and nice guy, and I bet the players feel respected by him. That said, Gulutzans coaching has a whole lot of flaws, and surely the players, at least a bunch of them feel that way too.

I think thats exactly the problem with "player" coaches. You can be a peer or you can be a boss. If your to buddy buddy with your employess they don't fear the ramifications of screwing up.

I worked in many places over the years the manager and supervisors were contractually obligated not to be friendly with the staff for that very reason.

[UKflames]

Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess

I'm not defending Gulutzan as a coach overall, but why is it his responsibility to get the team ready to start fast? These guys are fighting for a ####ing playoff spot, what more motivation do they need? These are men, they need to all be personally responsible for their own effort from start to finish.

Prepare to be tarred and feathered by the "fire GG" crew, this is not the narrative they want to read. Everything is his fault and the players are only doing what they are not told to do.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by UKflames

Prepare to be tarred and feathered by the "fire GG" crew, this is not the narrative they want to read. Everything is his fault and the players are only doing what they are not told to do.

What job have you ever had that It was not your managers job that you showed up ready to work??

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by ThaBrink

I don't know where you got that number from. I counted 13. Which obviously still isn't good.

The Flames have 12 games left.


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[gamesaver]

I've tried to convince myself before the game it was right to put Smith in, eventhough i felt a hot Rittich is a safe bet unlike cold Smith coming back from injury. Gully is players coach and regarding goaltending, he will always do what his number one wants. But to not pull him after 2nd goal and not even after 1st period is just dumb. Reading what Smith said in post game interview feels like he was frustrated with the lack of hard effort in his zone, no bodies in shooting lines and poor coverage around the crease. But if Rittich had that bad game, he would say only this: I was bad. Boys played really well but I did not made those saves. I have to be better...

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

What job have you ever had that It was not your managers job that you showed up ready to work??

If you show up to work not ready to work that's on you. If you repeatedly show up to work not ready that's on your manager for letting it continue.

[Rubicant]

Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess

I'm not defending Gulutzan as a coach overall, but why is it his responsibility to get the team ready to start fast? These guys are fighting for a ####ing playoff spot, what more motivation do they need? These are men, they need to all be personally responsible for their own effort from start to finish.

Agreed. As much as I want gulutzan gone in the summer, it worries me that the core of players we’ve hitched our wagon to seems incapable of performing in any situation with pressure.

I’d like to see how they do with another coach before blowing it up, but I am not filled with confidence that this group has the talent or intangibles to rise above mediocrity.

[Erick Estrada]

Since 2004 this team has wilted under pressure continually. I don't consider the slow starts as the players not caring or not being ready to play as much as nervousness and lack of confidence. When I watch this team I see a team trying to execute a coach's system but I don't see a lot of confidence and "hate to lose" mentality. Very robotic and devoid of much in the way of emotion. In the case of this game it certainly didn't help that they were down 2-0 before they even broke a sweat. I don't want to be overly critical of Smith in his first game back but that loss is on him and him alone. You just can't let in 3 pedestrian goals on the first 7 shots when you are life and death in a playoff race. This team doesn't have an offense or style of play suited to playing from behind and at the halfway mark of the first period they were facing a mountain to climb which was just too much.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The Flames have 9 wins in the last 29 games.... that's the definition of falling apart down the stretch.

And we need 9 wins in our next 12 games.

It's over boys.

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[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by cannon7

So obviously you want to get a healthy Smith back between the pipes as soon as possible. But why not keep riding the hot goalie in Rittich after two really strong games? Why am I even asking this question at this point? Clearly Gulutzan knows beter.

you sort of had to play Smith. he needed a game to shake the rust off.
when was he supposed to do that.
better sooner rather than later.

[Huntingwhale]

Was at the game and it sucked. Best part of the game was the fan trivia game during the commercial break where the fan making the Flames' smoothy got orange goop all over his face. That produced a hearty chuckle.

Smith got a huge ovation when he was announced as the starter. Thought for sure it was Rittich as he was out during thew warm up. But unfortunately, Smith looked like a player shaking off the rust. Was scrambling all night, bad rebounds, and goal #2 was brutal. I know it was deflected, but it's not like the puck deflected directly in front of him. Just looked like he waffed it completely.

[mdubz]

Any updates on Tkachuk?