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Old 11-06-2017, 11:00 AM   #141
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I think America needs to stop worrying about other countries in the third world and start worrying about theirs.

All the money they've put ruining other countries could be better spent on their country. America is basically a third world country in a lot of places.
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Old 11-06-2017, 11:05 AM   #142
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Thoughts and prayers to those affected by this tragedy. #SutherlandSpringsstrong . Since this was not a real terrorist attack, let's hear about the past of the shooter to pinion where to put the blame on anything but the guns used. Yes this happened in Texas, but everyone should have been armed in that Church. Clearly not enough gun awareness into getting more gun to prevent this tragedy from occurring. Let's do everything except actually do anything.


Children killed in this one. It's barely been a month since the single biggest single-shooter mass shooting in the US and we now on another big one. I was in Atlanta 2 weeks ago, and just going to the aquarium had a bigger security checkpoint for guns than the airport. A post I did on reddit when the Sweden shooting happened criticizing American pro gun activists using it for a political agenda got downvoted to oblivion. They simply don't get it, much like the whole healthcare thing.

You can't prevent someone attempting to kill for the sake of killing, as the truck running over people in New York City shows. You sure as heck can make it a little less easy than one guy bringing a small army's worth of weapons in a hotel room bought from gun shows, or a crazed man shooting up a church with a legally purchased assault rifle.
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Old 11-06-2017, 11:12 AM   #143
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I think I'll join the NRA. When they ask for payment, I'll send them a cheque written out to "thoughts and prayers." Pay my taxes with "thoughts and prayers." If I was a churchgoer (perish the thought), my tithe would be paid in "thoughts and prayers."

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Old 11-06-2017, 11:18 AM   #144
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“He came with his [gun], and he took cover behind a car and he shot the guy–I’m not sure if it was inside the church as he was coming out–but if it wasn’t for him the guy wouldn’t have stopped,” he said. “And that’s when [the suspect] got in his vehicle and took off, and our friend shot through the window again trying to get him.”


I can understand the argument that armed civilians could potentially reduce the impact of situations like this. That guy was brave and may indeed have saved lives. It’s also true that throwing a few armed civilians into a situation like this could have adverse consequences.

More to the point though, who the hell wants to live in a society where people feel the need to arm themselves for their safety???
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Friend of mine in Alabama wrote on Facebook that maybe it's time for people to start carrying guns to church services. I think he's serious. I don't know what to say.

Sure, that's the solution to gun violence: more guns. Arm everyone. Imagine the hail of bullets.
That's what Jesus would do.
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Old 11-06-2017, 11:37 AM   #146
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This thread is such deja-vu. Can we just copy and paste all of the comments to a new thread when the next massacre happens?
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I saw that the attorney general of a exams suggested folks in church should be armed

May as well issue heaters to everyone
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Old 11-06-2017, 11:47 AM   #148
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The problem with good guys with guns is when the police arrive, how do they know who the bad guy with a gun is?

Hell, how do the good guys know who the good guys are? It's actually kinda comical to think of two good guys blazing away at each other in a Walmart thinking they're shooting at the bad guy.
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Old 11-06-2017, 11:56 AM   #149
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I have this business idea, and I want you all as partners in it. Also a Nigerian Prince has promised me millions for my company.

The problem isn't less guns, but more, but not gun in the hands of people, but in robots.

That's right, I think we need to build and market a civilian version of Ed-309



Designed for smaller spaces its just as intimidating as the larger police units. If someone walks into your church or school or place of business with a gun in their hand or draws a gun will immediately be confronted by Ed-309. With a customized setting for compliance, Ed can give you anywhere from 60 seconds to put down your fire arm to premptive 0 which means it just blasts the gun man with no warning.

Armed with two magazine fed .50 caliber cannons you can also buy the optional flame thrower for quick and efficient body disposal.

We could price these things at a million dollars each and they would sell like crazy because

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Corporate warning: Its not recommended that gun shops use Ed-309 as a security device as it may be bad for business. While artificial intelligence is awesome its not perfect and our company takes no responsibility for glitches or mistakes in the name of personal security. Not recommended for multi level homes and businesses.
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The problem with good guys with guns is when the police arrive, how do they know who the bad guy with a gun is?

Hell, how do the good guys know who the good guys are? It's actually kinda comical to think of two good guys blazing away at each other in a Walmart thinking they're shooting at the bad guy.
Well obviously the bad guy will be the brown guy yelling Allahu Akbar!

Or he'll be the obvious guy with mental health issues.

Easy peasy.
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This thread is such deja-vu. Can we just copy and paste all of the comments to a new thread when the next massacre happens?
Pretty much this.

I liken this to the suicide bombings in the Middle East or Africa that occur on a daily basis. They get little to no attention media-wise here and that is because it is seen to be part of normal everyday life there. Scary, but true. That's how America is to me. I'm pretty much desensitised to these things now. No point in getting all worked up, knowing full well it's going to happen a couple days later AGAIN and the US government will once again do nothing to fix it.

The Vegas one certainly hit close to home for me since I knew someone who knew one of the victims. But #### it, if the American government or people aren't going to care enough to change anything, then why should I? Next week we'll all be gathered in another god damn thread saying the exact same things; thoughts and prayers, 2nd amendment, what a tragedy, reform, etc.

I remember after Columbine when our teachers sat us in the classrooms and tried to explain the tragedy to everyone. Everyone was in shock, people crying, and we saw the evil in it. Well those kids who did that must be laughing in their graves right now, watching all the copy cat shootings that happen in US now. Congratulations boys, you got your wish.

I want to send out my thoughts and 'prayers' to the victims. But I'm done doing that now. I'll just simply shake my head, keep my fingers crossed it's no one I know, go about my day like it's any other day, and thank the lucky stars that I live in Canada.
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Old 11-06-2017, 12:58 PM   #152
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Pretty much this.

I liken this to the suicide bombings in the Middle East or Africa that occur on a daily basis. They get little to no attention media-wise here and that is because it is seen to be part of normal everyday life there. Scary, but true. That's how America is to me. I'm pretty much desensitised to these things now. No point in getting all worked up, knowing full well it's going to happen a couple days later AGAIN and the US government will once again do nothing to fix it.

The Vegas one certainly hit close to home for me since I knew someone who knew one of the victims. But #### it, if the American government or people aren't going to care enough to change anything, then why should I? Next week we'll all be gathered in another god damn thread saying the exact same things; thoughts and prayers, 2nd amendment, what a tragedy, reform, etc.

I remember after Columbine when our teachers sat us in the classrooms and tried to explain the tragedy to everyone. Everyone was in shock, people crying, and we saw the evil in it. Well those kids who did that must be laughing in their graves right now, watching all the copy cat shootings that happen in US now. Congratulations boys, you got your wish.

I want to send out my thoughts and 'prayers' to the victims. But I'm done doing that now. I'll just simply shake my head, keep my fingers crossed it's no one I know, go about my day like it's any other day, and thank the lucky stars that I live in Canada.
Mass shootings with less than 5 dead don’t make the news anymore in the US, becasue if they did, they would literally be all the media would have time to talk about.

Never mind a mass shooting, a school shooting happens on average of once a week.

Kids accidentally picking up a gun in their own home and killing someone with it happens so often in the States, again, the news doesn’t even pick up the stories any more.

Yes, gun control isn’t going to be the whole solution, but it certainly is going to be part of the solution. Yes, it might take a couple generations for the culture to change, but you might as well start now.
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Old 11-06-2017, 12:59 PM   #153
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Agreed, doing nothing isn't exactly working
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:06 PM   #154
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The pro-gun crowd boasting about a good guy with a gun preventing a 27th casualty while ignoring the fact that this guy was able to simply purchase the gun that killed the first 26 is so sad. What a pathetic group.
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It's incredibly perplexing that the government will protect everyone's rights to own a gun, but not the cost for the care and treatment for if/when they get shot.
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Of course. Killer is a white American citizen. Can't blame religion, race, or immigration status. So the only logical thing to do is ensure the 2nd amendment is defended at all costs.
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Of course. Killer is a white American citizen. Can't blame religion, race, or immigration status. So the only logical thing to do is ensure the 2nd amendment is defended at all costs. blame mental illness
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It's incredibly perplexing that the government will protect everyone's rights to own a gun, but not the cost for the care and treatment for if/when they get shot.
That would be an interesting law suit! sue state governments for the cost of health care in cases where legal guns are involved
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following Newtown, i think America, made their decision wrt what's important to them.

its like groundhog day down there when it comes to mass shootings.
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Old 11-06-2017, 03:08 PM   #160
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no, you can't blame americans at this point.

They are living in a failed state, this isn't due to the will of the people, it's the result of living in an oligarchy.

Might as well be russia.
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