View Poll Results: Who do you WANT to be the Flames starting goalie in 2017–18?
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Ryan Miller (UFA)
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Jonathan Bernier (UFA)
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Steve Mason (UFA)
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Brian Elliott (UFA)
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Chad Johnson (UFA)
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Mike Condon (UFA)
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Philipp Grubauer (Trade)
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Calvin Pickard (Trade)
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Marc Andre-Fleury (Trade)
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Jaroslav Halak (Trade)
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Antti Raanta (Trade)
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Cam Ward (Trade)
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Joonis Korpisalo (Trade)
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Mike Smith (Trade)
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Jon Gillies
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David Rittich
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Peter Mrazek (Trade)
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Micheal Neuvirth (Trade)
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04-25-2017, 10:25 PM
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#141
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Grubauer and Gillies I think would make a great tandem, however you must address the goaltending coach asap.
Very cap friendly, young, would push each other and allow the Flames to also address a number 4 defenseman and a top line right wing.
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04-25-2017, 10:30 PM
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#142
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamca
Grubauer and Gillies I think would make a great tandem, however you must address the goaltending coach asap.
Very cap friendly, young, would push each other and allow the Flames to also address a number 4 defenseman and a top line right wing.
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Or, neither could be suited to play that many games and the season would be over before December.
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04-25-2017, 10:47 PM
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#143
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Franchise Player
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Really surprises me that anyone out there would want to trust our next two seasons to Mike Smith, especially over Bishop...but I guess only 6 people voted for him so "whatevs"
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04-25-2017, 10:52 PM
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#144
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Or, neither could be suited to play that many games and the season would be over before December.
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Well that's an interesting take, the season would be over in December like many thought it was in early January with Elliott and Johnson this season.
Your guaranteed perfect number one goalie for next season is...?
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04-25-2017, 10:56 PM
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#145
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Originally Posted by iamca
Well that's an interesting take, the season would be over in December like many thought it was in early January with Elliott and Johnson this season.
Your guaranteed perfect number one goalie for next season is...?
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I just think it's too late to go for too big of an unknown. Sure, maybe Grauber or Korpisalo are the next Talbot. Or maybe they're the next Viktor Fasth, and you wasted valuable time on what's becoming the early part of this cores prime years
Personally, I think you go after Bishop despite the high cost because at least then you know what you're getting, and it's a damn good goalie
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04-25-2017, 11:35 PM
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#146
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Voted Raanta. Wanted to vote Rittich because I think we may have something there, but he can't be given number one - if he does have the goods he will need the opportunity to step in and claim it.
More of a hope than a want based on known info.
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04-25-2017, 11:54 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
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Mrazek, kid is going to be a stud, but zero chance Detroit lets him go and hangs onto Howard.
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04-26-2017, 01:00 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Grub then Elliot then MAF. If bishops contract is over 4 years I wouldn't pay him market value.
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04-26-2017, 01:17 AM
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All I can get
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Still thinking the next Flames starter comes via trade with Las Vegas. They can stock up on as many as six via expansion draft.
It's a Seller's market. Great potential for a steal at this position if Treliving plays his cards right.
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04-26-2017, 01:24 AM
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#150
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, TX
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Voted Bishop.
Reason: no more risks, need a proven guy as young as possible.
My ideal depth chart:
Flames:
Bishop
Rittich
Stockton:
Gillies 1A
Parsons 1B
Adirondack:
Mason
Schneider
Loaned out:
The fool they signed for expansion purposes
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04-26-2017, 01:47 AM
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#151
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Obviously you don't bet on an unproven prospect suddenly becoming your starter, but I voted Gillies because I want to see him succeed and I think it's time to start giving him NHL starts to see where he's at. There were also so many good options to choose from.
Since you don't bet on Gillies, he shouldn't really enter into the equation much at this point.
What I really want though is
1) Bishop or Fleury as a proven starter (in that order of preference, as I think Bishop is more consistent and he wouldn't cost anything beyond money).
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2) Darling or Grubauer as the young option (in that order of preference because again Darling is a UFA and Grubauer is not).
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04-26-2017, 02:03 AM
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#152
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Franchise Player
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Wasn't Bishop's year just as poor as Elliott's? He was also a huge reason why the Lightning missed the playoffs.
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04-26-2017, 02:13 AM
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#153
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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I have to add:
I would love the duo of Darling and Johnson simply for the endless potential for puns.
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04-26-2017, 02:43 AM
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#154
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Wasn't Bishop's year just as poor as Elliott's? He was also a huge reason why the Lightning missed the playoffs.
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Really? Most of what i read said the opposite, that he had a down year since the team in front played so poorly. Lots of fans were sad to see him get moved too. Not denying it I just heard different
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04-26-2017, 02:55 AM
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#155
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Wasn't Bishop's year just as poor as Elliott's? He was also a huge reason why the Lightning missed the playoffs.
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His greatest skills set is big. Big is good?
Pucks hit Bishop. He doesn't make saves.
Not sold on risking 5 years on big
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04-26-2017, 03:07 AM
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#156
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by btimbit
Really? Most of what i read said the opposite, that he had a down year since the team in front played so poorly. Lots of fans were sad to see him get moved too. Not denying it I just heard different
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I can't say for certain because I don't watch the Lightning often, but they didn't allow an exorbitant amount of shots against, they were middle of the pack in that, which correlates with their GA. Their SA/GP only rose 1.5 shots per game from last year as well, sure injuries and such may have allowed better scoring chances, but for his sv% to drop by .16, it has to be more than just the team in front of him you would think.
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04-26-2017, 03:17 AM
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#157
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Amsterdam
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Have a friend with lightning season tickets and in his opinion Bishop had a poor year. An one off bad year or a warning sign of regression, he wasnt sure but he is glad they have Vasilevsky instead of Bishop long term. The key to a Bishop deal for Tre is term to limit the risk, has to be 3 years. Saturated goalie market may make it possible, higher AAV with short term? I know its early, but I think we have something in Parsons down the road.
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04-26-2017, 03:24 AM
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#158
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by gunnner
Have a friend with lightning season tickets and in his opinion Bishop had a poor year. An one off bad year or a warning sign of regression, he wasnt sure but he is glad they have Vasilevsky instead of Bishop long term. The key to a Bishop deal for Tre is term to limit the risk, has to be 3 years. Saturated goalie market may make it possible, higher AAV with short term? I know its early, but I think we have something in Parsons down the road.
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Another thing is 2015-16 for Bishop was significantly better than 2014-15. Last season was not the norm for Bishop IMO, I don't think this year was either. I think the reality is somewhere in the middle, probably in the 915-920 SV% range being the norm.
I also agree on getting a goalie fro a shorter term, I don't want anyone for longer than 3 years.
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04-26-2017, 03:57 AM
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#159
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
I also agree on getting a goalie fro
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Say no more, Gary Smith is our man.
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04-26-2017, 04:44 AM
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#160
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Another thing is 2015-16 for Bishop was significantly better than 2014-15. Last season was not the norm for Bishop IMO, I don't think this year was either. I think the reality is somewhere in the middle, probably in the 915-920 SV% range being the norm.
I also agree on getting a goalie fro a shorter term, I don't want anyone for longer than 3 years.
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I would be all for Bishop but I too don't want him or anyone else on a long term deal past 3 years. would hate to waste the developments of Gillies and Parsons just to see them play elsewhere.
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