For those mentioning that Elliott has been unlucky this year, I will recall the old adage that you need to be lucky to be good and good to be lucky. Run with the "lucky" hand in Johnson imo.
What pisses me off the most is the type of penalties that we are taking. We are not playing like a tough team. It's as though the team has been told to not take roughing and retaliatory penalties. However the amount of weak lazy calls we have been taking is getting tiresome. If we were taking the same amount of penalties but they were as a result of putting sometimes head through the glass, or cross checking the crap out of someone for being too close to the net then I could accept them. The Nhl has shown that there is a median amount of penalties that they will call, so might as well use up our quota with calls that will get our players some more space and will fire up the team. Eventually we will get some even up calls and in the end we win the penalty war having taken penalties that will garner some benefit. Additionally there is the feeling that we are getting more than our share of penalties so if the choice is an accidental half sold trip, or a message sent I know which one I prefer.
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Not all of that is true or even accurate but if thats how the league feels this team needs to start making things a whole lot tougher on opponents.
OK, just read the rest of this thread. Is nobody else absolutely pissed at the one-sided refereeing tonight? People are talking like the Flames laid an egg, except they didn't, the momentum was turned single-handedly by referees tonight.
I'm also the last guy to blame anything on a ref, but I was a ball of white hot rage tonight watching this one. Two calls on the same sequence, both were weak as hell, and they missed the Ristolainen dive on the 2nd call, which would have made it just a 5 on 4. Instead, it's an extended 4 on 3/5 on 3 and they score on both calls.
After that, the team was in disarray, but still rallied and tried their best to come back.
Elliott was culpable on 2 of the 4 goals (2nd and 4th), and I'd be fine with making him the backup to Johnson for the foreseeable future. His head just isn't in the right place, and he's too slow to react to everything.
I agree about reffing. Not so much that the Flames were bing called, it just was that penalties were something like 6-0 until the game was out of hand.
On Elliott, wasn't the second goal a fairly decent tip? With bodies in front? I missed the 4th, which was a backbreaker after the Tkachuk goal. But was super quick in his eractions until the power play festival. He made a number of erally fast leg saves.
Brouwer's game can't be fully measured by his point totals and we all knew that when he signed.
He brings other elements that this team lacks.
Outside of last night, where he took 2 penalties within 2 minutes, I think he's been one of Calgary's better forwards this season. (Backlund, Frolik, Brouwer and Ferland. Probably in that order IMO.)
He's been as advertised. It's not Brouwer's fault this team doesn't have a legitamite top line right winger.
His 4.5 would go more than 2/3 of the way to paying a legitimate top line RW instead.
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Lol.
Seriously though having Versteeg on the PP makes a lot more sense than Linden Vey. That is assuming, of course, that Versteeg will be on the PP. With Gulutzan, who knows. In Gulutzan's head Frolik shouldn't be on he PP, Wideman either sits or plays 22+ minutes, no in between, and Brodie on the PP ahead of Hamilton .
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I definitely think we need a better #1 RW... but I don't see an easy solution.
Who do you propose?
I don't have an answer either. Obviously Radulov would have been nice, but not realistic.
Just concerned contracts like 4.5M for middle 6 guys make it that much harder to pay for elite talent.
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I don't have an answer either. Obviously Radulov would have been nice, but not realistic.
Just concerned contracts like 4.5M for middle 6 guys make it that much harder to pay for elite talent.
It's hard to get a top-line RW when you're paying 8M+ for your middle six at that position. I like both Frolik and Brouwer, but that's a lot of cash on RW without having a 1st line player.
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