11-19-2016, 10:18 AM
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#141
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by 868904
in the defensive zone he is a liability
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So are Hamilton and Kulak. Look at what happened when they were together in the NYR game. I agree Wideman isn't great defensively, but he's got more upside than Jokipakka.
Treliving should have re-signed Russell and dealt either Wideman or Hamilton, but he didn't so this is what they're stuck with. They shouldn't put Jokipakka or Kulak with Hamilton. They aren't strong enough defensively, and It'll be a fire drill every time they're on the ice.
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11-19-2016, 10:18 AM
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#142
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Franchise Player
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If this team hadn't crapped away the first quarter of the season, as a fan, I'd be happy to take a lot of 'moral victories' from last night. Unfortunately, this team needs to go on some kind of run to get back into contention.
Put up or shut up time now. No excuses, u.s. turkey day is upon us!
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11-19-2016, 10:20 AM
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#143
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
Ryan Hartman?
4 pts in 13 games played Ryan Hartman? Are we talking about the same player here?
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Was referring to the passer - Artem Anisimov.
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11-19-2016, 10:21 AM
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#144
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by skian
So are Hamilton and Kulak. Look at what happened when they were together in the NYR game. I agree Wideman isn't great defensively, but he's got more upside than Jokipakka.
Treliving should have re-signed Russell and dealt either Wideman or Hamilton, but he didn't so this is what they're stuck with. They shouldn't put Jokipakka or Kulak with Hamilton. They aren't strong enough defensively, and It'll be a fire drill every time they're on the ice.
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Originally Posted by skian
Was referring to the passer - Artem Anisimov.
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You dig that hole any deeper and you're gonna pop out in Australia
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11-19-2016, 10:26 AM
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#145
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
You dig that hole any deeper and you're gonna pop out in Australia
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Well I could use some sun. And maybe I'd get to see a right proper wrister with a full whipper behind it go off haha
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11-19-2016, 10:27 AM
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#146
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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I was at this game and the most annoying thing was not that they lost, it was the amount of hardcore totally not bandwagon Hawks "fans".
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11-19-2016, 10:27 AM
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#147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Coach shows so much patience for wideman, chiasson, and D combos, but doesn't have patience when it comes to letting younger guys find there way with more ice time. I want to see shinkaruk get reps and a chance to succeed.
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11-19-2016, 11:10 AM
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#148
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Franchise Player
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Despite the loss, it's encouraging to see them play consistent for three games. Keep up the good work, keep working on the PP.
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11-19-2016, 11:22 AM
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#149
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: The Netherlands
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Wrong thread.
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Last edited by Stupid; 11-19-2016 at 11:25 AM.
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11-19-2016, 11:28 AM
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#150
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustygoon
Coach shows so much patience for wideman, chiasson, and D combos, but doesn't have patience when it comes to letting younger guys find there way with more ice time. I want to see shinkaruk get reps and a chance to succeed.
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Shinkaruk got 3 games and was invisible and the Flames lost all 3. Then he sat 2 and in both those games the team won. Why would they mess with winning chemistry when games are so important right now? He'll get another chance.
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11-19-2016, 11:42 AM
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#151
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Vancouver
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I watched the game late last night and the thing that stuck out for me was how much more jump Monahan had, he was legit sprinting into battles to keep pucks low and dusted off his high slot/ perimeter wrister. I feel like Bennett - Monahan - Brouwer is GG's best combo to date as far as matching the "big dogs" against the oppositions best line. The Tkachuk -Backlund - Frolik line is a solid 'second line' and the bottom six are winning the energy/momentum matchups. I'm pumped, in some ways I think all the early adversity is going to produce a roster & identity that gets stronger as the season goes and hopefully finishes the season with momentum & confidence regardless of what seed they go into the playoffs in.
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11-19-2016, 11:42 AM
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#152
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustygoon
Coach shows so much patience for wideman, chiasson, and D combos, but doesn't have patience when it comes to letting younger guys find there way with more ice time. I want to see shinkaruk get reps and a chance to succeed.
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He's gotten way more chances than he deserves and has been really bad and hasn't shown 1/10th of the compete level that is needed of him. He could learn a few things from Hathaway.
I'm not seeing anything special in his game and it's becoming more clear why the Canucks had no problem trading him for Granlund.
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11-19-2016, 11:50 AM
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#153
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Self-Retired
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Originally Posted by skian
He got beat by a good player and unfortunately it ended up in the back of the net. Wouldn't bench him over 1 bad play.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skian
So are Hamilton and Kulak. Look at what happened when they were together in the NYR game. I agree Wideman isn't great defensively, but he's got more upside than Jokipakka.
Treliving should have re-signed Russell and dealt either Wideman or Hamilton, but he didn't so this is what they're stuck with. They shouldn't put Jokipakka or Kulak with Hamilton. They aren't strong enough defensively, and It'll be a fire drill every time they're on the ice.
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Denis? Did you just finally learn how to internet and discover CP?
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11-19-2016, 12:09 PM
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#154
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: F*** me. We're so f***ing good, you check the f***ing standings? Lets f***ing go! F***ing practice!
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I don't understand why the second PP isn't Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik. I mean they dominate some shifts 5 on 5 so what not see what they can do on the PP.
Frolik has seen like no PP time this season. Considering his is our leading scorer, why not award him with some freaking powerplay?
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11-19-2016, 12:12 PM
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#155
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Thought the boys played really well. Liked Monahan, Bennett, and Brouwer line. They looked dangerous all night. Just a tough break at the end but that's hockey. The refs didn't lose us that game, their awful PP lost them the game... Again. Imagine how much of a difference even an average PP would make.
Also I think it's time to spam Ken King until those are our full-time uniforms. I honestly think they're among the best in the NHL right up there with Boston, Chicago, and New York. Our current ones are down there with Colorado and Minnesota. Awful.
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11-19-2016, 12:51 PM
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#156
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N-E-B
The refs didn't lose us that game, their awful PP lost them the game... Again. Imagine how much of a difference even an average PP would make.
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I firmly believe that if the Flames had even an average PP, they'd likely be fighting for the division lead right now with the Ducks. Good news is the PP has looked much better of late. But of course in the end it's about the results, and if they don't start converting some of those chances, this team isn't going anywhere. The PK continues to suck as well, which isn't helping.
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11-19-2016, 01:08 PM
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#157
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Originally Posted by The Fonz
Thanks, did not know that, and I believe the reason coincidental penalties don't result in 4 vs 4 is due to 80s Oilers. Maybe someone can confirm.
It's pretty silly that we're stifling offense in today's NHL, where goals are hard to come by and the talent gap between players no longer exists (relative to what it was in the 50s or 80s).
Avg g/g (pulled from Hockey-Reference):
1945 - 6.69
1955 - 5.38
1965 - 6.08
1975 - 6.82
1985 - 7.94
1995 - 6.29
2005 - 6.17
2015 - 5.42
^Do these numbers shock anyone else? I thought they'd be much higher in the 40s - 70s. The only outlier seems to be the 80s, in that scoring was too high.
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Fonz...who knows? It was retro to remove the center line to allow "2-line" passing (that had been put in to "slow" the game), perhaps, they will return full penalty time.
Myself, aside from adjusting last minute of the game penalties, I'd like to see SH teams NOT be able to ice the puck...they took the penalty, they should be stuck with the full rules.
Speaking to those who think my idea of Penalty Shot for last 2 minute penalties is harsh, IMO, it is less harsh than deciding the darn game on Penalty shots after OT.
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11-19-2016, 01:42 PM
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#158
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
He's gotten way more chances than he deserves and has been really bad and hasn't shown 1/10th of the compete level that is needed of him. He could learn a few things from Hathaway.
I'm not seeing anything special in his game and it's becoming more clear why the Canucks had no problem trading him for Granlund.
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Granlund has played plenty of games in the NHL and there were quite a few where he showed nothing. These guys are not superstars. They need time to figure it out.
Once Shinkaruk gets up over 100 games in the NHL I would be willing to bet he's better than Granlund is today. Right now, Granlund is a more effective NHL player but he's also had 110 more games to develop his game. Long term vs short term goals.
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11-19-2016, 02:05 PM
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#159
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Ferland not on the PP is driving me nuts. He is an excellent screen man, he is always moving, he has great vision, and he has our ONLY home powerplay goal.
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11-19-2016, 02:06 PM
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#160
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Ferland not on the PP is driving me nuts. He is an excellent screen man, he is always moving, he has great vision, and he has our ONLY home powerplay goal.
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And the leading goal scorer should probably be on the league's worst PP. Seems like kind of a no brainer
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