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Old 04-30-2016, 03:25 PM   #141
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Ovechkin is the greatest goalscorer in modern NHL history. God damn, people get carried away with comparisons...
People use the comparable because they think his upside is that high. Laine looks like he might be the next great goalscorer in the NHL. Scouts legitimately think he has 40-50 goal potential at the NHL level.

The top 3 in this draft have very, very high upsides. The players after that are very appealing too.
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Old 04-30-2016, 03:35 PM   #143
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I'm expecting us to pick 8th once this is all said and done.

That way I'll be pleasantly surprised if they do better.
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Old 04-30-2016, 03:39 PM   #144
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Columbus will win 1st overall.

That way we can all once again rejoice at the Flames big comeback fluke goal win against the Wild in game 82.
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Old 04-30-2016, 03:40 PM   #145
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Just ran a one-off. Not sure how I feel about it.



Flames lose but so do Oilers and Jets (and Canucks and Leafs)
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Columbus will win 1st overall.

That way we can all once again rejoice at the Flames big comeback fluke goal win against the Wild in game 82.
Oh please.

There were many times during the season where we could have influenced our final ranking the same way. It's all moot now.
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McDavid added, "if you don't smile... everyone will assume you aren't happy"
In that situation you would expect a happy person to smile...
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Just ran a one-off. Not sure how I feel about it.



Flames lose but so do Oilers and Jets (and Canucks and Leafs)
I hate to repeat myself but what do you mean you're not sure how to feel about it? It's basically the lowest the Flames could possibly finish, how in the hell some of you guys feel okay about that because "look, it also screws the Canucks and Oilers!!!!" is beyond me.

We're a franchise trying to go from having nice young pieces to Stanley Cup contenders. You do that by picking up the best players possible. Who cares what the other teams do, there's 30 teams in the league, the difference between Matthews/Laine and whoever we pick at 8th is likely going to be huge.

You feel bad if the Flames drop to 8th, there's no other way to feel about that. C'mon.
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Please, please, please.
I really like the lottery ball selection that we can run.

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Just did my first sim



Here's hoping!!!!
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Lol, McDavid is so bolting after his 7 year sentence is done.
Unless the $ is substantially different I don't see why one would play in Edmonton vs say Arizona, California, or where there is less travelling.
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It's basically the lowest the Flames could possibly finish, how in the hell some of you guys feel okay about that because "look, it also screws the Canucks and Oilers!!!!" is beyond me.
Because any of the following players:

Jost
Sergachyev
Brown
Tkachuk
Nylander
Chychrun
Juolevi
Keller
Fabbro
Bean
Rubtsov
McLeod

Could be ranked at 5 on the Flames' internal board. Everything I've listened to or read about this year's draft is that all these players are a matter of preference. The Flames could have a board from 4-8 that goes:

Dubois
Brown
Jost
Tkachuk


and the draft order from 4 to 8 could be:
Tkachuk (Toronto, if they want to have Marner and Nylander down the middle and they love their London Knights)
Chychrun (Edmonton)
Juolevi (Vancouver)


Realistically I'm not expecting to win the Lotto in the first place, there just isn't much probability but I'm eager to find out. Of course I'd be over the moon to win a top 3 pick, and if not, we

1) Don't have to deal with the Oilers getting a fool-proof player like Laine to throw on McDavid's wing . This matters, because it lets them flip a Hall or Eberle for a defenseman to strengthen their team. They're a divisional opponent, their failure is also important to the Flames' success. How long could you hold down a team with McDavid and Laine?

2) Have teams that are known to be prioritizing a defenseman over a forward if they don't get a top 3 pick, letting a guy who might be ranked 4th on our list potentially fall to us. If the draft order is


Toronto
Edmonton
Vancouver
Columbus
Calgary

Sure we pick 5th. But who might get picked at 4? Dubois to the Blue Jackets just traded their 1C away.

So picking 5th isn't necessarily "better" than picking 8th. It depends who picks whom ahead of us.

My preference is still winning a top 3 spot, by far.
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Old 04-30-2016, 04:13 PM   #153
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anyone know if there are any streaming options for those w/o cable?
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and just to further my "being okay with the Flames finishing lower as long as the Oilers and Canucks (and leafs and Jets) get screwed in the process" rant;

I'll gladly go on record that I will happily take ANY combination of the Flames, Oilers and Canucks taking the top three lottery positions over ANY scenario where the Flames finish 5th-9th. Happily.

We're talking about the same Oilers team that can't finish out of the bottom five no matter how many first round picks they add right? And we're talking about the Vancouver Canucks that are majorly declining and need a top three pick PLUS about 3 or 4 young star potential prospects to start their upswing, right?

Give me the top three pick and get us on our way to Cup contenders any day of the week, who cares about our rivals.
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Old 04-30-2016, 04:23 PM   #155
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Didn't read through the whole thread, but isn't this taking place at 7pm ET, not 8?
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Old 04-30-2016, 04:23 PM   #156
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I'm going radio silence until the Pens-Caps game starts. Not even looking at my phone until then. Hope that helps.
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Old 04-30-2016, 04:27 PM   #157
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NHL.com says 8 ET
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Old 04-30-2016, 04:28 PM   #158
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Didn't read through the whole thread, but isn't this taking place at 7pm ET, not 8?
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Old 04-30-2016, 04:28 PM   #159
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Thanks, I just saw this as well.

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Old 04-30-2016, 04:32 PM   #160
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You know, one good argument for not wanting Columbus to win the lottery from the 4 spot is that we will have to deal with literally a decade of CP whining about that last win of the season where WE COULD HAVE BEEN #4!
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